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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by yodaddy, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. Actually just because he is mexican doesn't mean that the truck is stolen. There is a lot of iffy comming though in the story like the system crashing and the Govt loosing any record of the truck. it probably was either left by a visiting American or purchased over here and never liscensed etc.

    One of the things we used to do if we lost a vehicle in mexico was pull the vin tag or serial number tag it was illegal to leave you vehicle in Mexico back in the '80s and '90s. If they could trace it back to you it would cause you a major problem next time you tried to cross the border. I doubt they would ever trace one back to you but that was what we did.
     
  2. Mr48chev
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    It seems like if he (the doctor) had an old Mexican registration slip in the glove box that he could file for a lost ***le on it there.
    Even the last plates that were on the truck should allow him to get paperwork on it if it is in his name. Otherwise it is a nice shiny stack of parts that may just get you in deep stuff if you try to bring them in all in one piece.

    As the old country song goes' You have to know when to fold them and I think that this is one of those times when it may just be better to p*** up on this particular truck than buy it and try to get it back across the border. There may just be too big of a chance that you would loose the truck and the money you paid for it.
     
  3. Fenders
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    Let's see -- Mexican DMV lost all the info, the Doctor lost his ***le, the painter lost the friggin VIN tag....

    ****in stolen USA car, screw the Mexicans...
     
  4. It varies a lot from make to make where they had numbers. Cadillacs don't have a tag until the mid or late 1950s and they're laminated paper on 59/60s - they relied on the engine number and some had that number on the frame under the hood, too. The Motors manual says to use the engine number on them.

    I know for a fact Chevy cars have no frame number until 1955, pickups I'm not certain but I believe they did it the same way.
     
  5. chaddilac
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    find a local cab with a ***le and put it on that frame with the fenders and bed... bam! Done!! :D
     
  6. PhilJohnson
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    Couldn't you just bribe someone in the Mexican DMV to give you a ***le? I thought that is how stuff works down there.
     
  7. That's pretty much pre NAFTA. I know that you can still p*** a propina to beurocrats down there but it is along the same lines as helping a senator up here these days.
     
  8. chaos10meter
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    Yes really, a good Mexican friend always told me,

    "Nothing is impossible in Mexico , it just takes a little longer".


    The mordita
     
  9. rainh8r
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    Most of these vehicles were ***led using the engine number as the VIN. The data plate on the firewall was not a specific VIN. Check the numbers he has written down and compare them to the engine number that should be on a pad by the distributor. If it's the same, see what both the US/Nevada and Mexican system is for restoring a lost ***le, but don't try to bring it across the border without the right do***ents. The "story" doesn't matter to anyone, just the do***entation.
     
  10. It could be just as easily a stolen mexican car. And I'm not sure that I like your at***ude, I'm not hispanic but I prefer Mexican's to most other people in the world.

    Don't give me that **** about your job unless you are a dish washer by trade.
     
  11. MikeRose
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    ask SLED what you can do legally in MX.?
     
  12. swissmike
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    There must be a way for the good doctor to get a replacement ***le. Do people have to drive their cars off a cliff in Mexico if they lose the ***le?

    Practice your storytelling if you inted to cross the border with a completely undo***ented vehicle.
     
  13. PhilJohnson
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    Totally unnecessary as was the first comment. I've done most of the jobs that people of your opinion think "Americans won't do" and resent people who think that the only people who will do those jobs are the illiterate desperate poor from some third world nation :rolleyes: I won't delve into it here but suffice to say I've had a bit of experience with the hiring practices of certain industries.
     
  14. I'm having trouble understanding why the current ***led owner (presumably the doctor) cannot simply do the paperwork to obtain either a lost or duplicate ***le. If it's in his name, surely there would not be an inspection of the vehicle. My guess is that it never was ***led to him, he spent a bunch of money on it, THEN found out he was SOL. Oh wait, that NEVER happens, does it?:rolleyes:

    Never been ripped off by a Mexican, but been ripped off by a few white guys...
     
  15. swazzie
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    That's not a mexican prison. Too clean.
     
  16. swazzie
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    ask sled is right!!!
     
  17. Fenders
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    Sorry, my at***ude is against the laws and politics and government of Mexico, not its people, Pershing should not have stopped and long live the second amendment !!

    Oh I never mentioned my job.....
     
  18. MikeRose
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    My wife who is from MX, and who's sister works for a DMV in Mexicali BC says the doctor can go to the procordia justicia? and ask them to certify ownership. Should only be like $5 according to her. That's if he is really the legal owner. Definitely the way to go is getting him to do the leg work IMO. My brother in law is a lawyer who buys, repairs and sells cars as a hobby down there. He might know more. I don't see him that often though, but could have my wife ask, next time we see him. My spanish isn't too great. I've seen a model A coupe in a yard down there that I want, but I just avoided it because I figured it would be a pain. I know guys do it though, so there has to be a way, if it is legally owned.
     
  19. yodaddy
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    after doing much research it turns out that if you fail to register an old vehicle 5 years after your last registration, the mexican dmv considers it to be junked therefore they take it out of the system and consider it to be no more. im having the doc send me the written down #'s and im going to try and see if i can get the ***le here.
     
  20. SquireDon
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    It's probably stolen.
     
  21. yodaddy
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    Katatonic Mike thanks for the info.

    and i guess all the real prejudice came out when i posted this post wow.
    just because its a mexican that owns the truck does not mean its stolen
    people!! thank you all that are actually trying to help and **** all you other racist *******s that dont have **** to say except try be biggots.
     
  22. SquireDon
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    Hey ***hole, I could give two ****s if the guy you were buying it from was mexican or not. If you were buying it from a Canadian your statement still sounds su****ious.

    1. No ***le
    2. Vin Tag Removed

    1 + 2 = su****ious and possibly stolen.

    Don't ask stupid questions if you don't want an honest answer.
     
  23. patrick66
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  24. yodaddy
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    1. No ***le
    2. Vin Tag Removed

    1 + 2 = su****ious and possibly stolen.

    Don't ask stupid questions if you don't want an honest answer




    THATS NOT AN HONEST ANSWER THATS AN HONESTLY STUPID ANSWER!!!
    NOT EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IS A THEIF AS YOU THINK BECAUSE THINGS DO HAPPEN NO MATTER HOW STUPID THEY ARE "THINGS HAPPEN".

    DONT POST **** IF YOUR NOT GONA HELP WITH A SOLUTION!!!
     
  25. mysteryman
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    i went through my statefarm insurance agent and got a bonded ***le for my jeep and also for my motorcycle that had never been registered and i got a bonded ***le for that as well .a police officer came out ran the numbers and filled out a form that i took to the insurance agent.they did all the paper work cost $75.00 for jeep,$ 50.00 for motorcycle.hope this helps
     
  26. PhilJohnson
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    Fine then, if you think that no vin tag and no ***le on a freshly redone truck aren't the tiniest bit su****ious then go right ahead and buy it. Go buy a ***le (aka historical do***ent) and be done with it, that is your only solution. It isn't legal but then the whole deal smells like a steaming pile of illegal stolen **** anyway. If you can't get it across the border that way you better start singing the Johnny Cash song one piece at a time. There is an honest answer and I didn't even have to be racist come up with it :rolleyes:
     
  27. My first job was picking fruit with the Mexican's. I have a Mexican daughter that I haven't seen in several years. I don't think you have any idea what my opinion is, I was being prepared for the argument "They are taking food out of our mouths!!!"

    You're going to climb my *** and not the racists ***? Well I guess I know where you are comming from.

    You racists all pretty much use the same argument they are all either criminals or they are taking jobs away from us. Now besides being a racist you are getting political.

    The general consensus that the truck is stolen because it is in Mexico to that it it is a stolen American truck in Mexico is pretty damned narrow minded. The big 3 have been exporting vehicles to and manufacturing vehicles in Mexico since before most of us were born.

    The truth of the matter is that as a group of people in general, there is no harder working or gentler, or honest people on the face of this planet. They are different than you and that scares you, I understand. I have been around racists all my life, anything or anyone that is different scares them, many of them hide behind their narrow band of "amendment rights" while they ignore the weightier parts of our cons***ution, the ones that have made our country strong and caused the oppressed from all over the world to desire our way of life. Some like those from Latin America are actually willing to risk their lives to get here and try to claim a little piece of the American dream. I don't have a problem with that myself, I am not Native American, my people came from another place as well to try and cut themselves a piece of the pie.

    It is not the fact the truck is in Mexico that makes the deal sound fishy. It is the back story on the truck that makes it sound fishy. Were it on this side of the river most of the fellas would just say well go for it and work the ***le out later. No less stolen or at the very least iffy. Getting it across the river is a totaly different story.
     
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  28. CraigR
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    I think you're taking this the wrong way - seems like you asked a question, got some good advice but want to ignore it probably 'cause this is a real 'good' deal.
    It's not rascist to think this could be a stolen vehicle. I inspect vehicles and broker deals for international customers on a regular basis. I wouldn't waste time going 10 miles for a Chevy truck with no ***le, no registration and no vin.
    Sometimes perfectly good deals can look bad to start off with - but come right only when other parts of the deal start adding up. This one gets worse - he expects you to believe the registration fell off the system due to a crash in 89 that wiped out the entire Mexican DMV? So if it's off the system, he can still register it in Mexico first - why won't he?
    Do you realize how ludicrous this is all going to sound to the Customs agent at the border - who's there to stop stolen vehicles crossing borders?
     
  29. CraigR
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    Did the Hamber's with the early chevy truck stolen in Texas ever get it back?
     
  30. shinysideup
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    Im more inclined to believe he is looking for a way to bring it over knowing its stolen than to believe he is that naive. BTW,it wouldnt matter if it was across in Canada and a french doctor owned it.
     

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