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Hot Rods 525 GM box in a 40 ford

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by macs67, Jul 31, 2011.

  1. macs67
    Joined: Apr 21, 2010
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    macs67
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    from oregon

    if you do how did u set it up? my 40 ford pickmup doesnt have steering with the stock fr. end my questions are
    #1 what years/doner cars are the GM 525 steering box in
    #2 what did you use for parts from the box over?
    #3 how do u like it, much bump steer?
    thanks
     
  2. ramrod2624
    Joined: Dec 19, 2006
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    Im putting one in my 41 right now. replaced the vega box that was there. the 525 bolts right up to the vega mount. if you don't have a vega mount they are readily available, but need to be welded in. not sure what year but I think they are pretty much the same. I needed a short shaft box to get mine to work, only because I already have the steering column installed. ill let you know about bump steer once I get it on the road. oh I would also say the 525 is probally a better way to go on the truck as I broke one of the ears off of the vega.....
     
  3. macs67
    Joined: Apr 21, 2010
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    from oregon

    ramrod ty for responding. i was talking to the rep from drakes @ my local car show yesterday and he suggested that box and now im curious is a power steering box possible? do you have a stock front end? how do i know its a 525 when im looking?
     
  4. Novas, Camaros, Chevelles, and other mid-size GM use these boxes. Chassis Engineering makes a mounting plate that adapts them to stock '37-'48 car and '37-'47 pickup steering box mount. Pitman arm splines are the same as early Ford, so you can use Henry's pitman arm. The box on my '38 Ford pickup came out of a '64 Chevelle and has the original Ford pitman arm on it.
     
  5. macs67
    Joined: Apr 21, 2010
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    from oregon

    Is this a power steering box? is it identified by a "casted in # 525?
     
  6. macs67
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    hey 38 ty for the reply, nice 38 there
     
  7. hot rod wille
    Joined: Oct 27, 2005
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    I noticed you said"short shaft box"? Who makes it? i have a Vega box on my 37 coupe,and could use one of those boxes.Don't want to redo the column,so a short 525 might just do the trick.
     
  8. coupe33
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    The 525 is not power but the 605 is. They are mid 60's through 80's. Mid size GM boxes Pontiac Buick Olds.
     
  9. edsel
    Joined: Sep 3, 2004
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    I found mine in an early S10 pu, plan to use it on a 55 chevy gasser.
     
  10. macs67
    Joined: Apr 21, 2010
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    macs67
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    from oregon

    ty coupe33 & edsel is there any identifable marks on it i remember the 605 was casted w #'s is the 525 the same way.
    Any one have p/s on there truck?
     
  11. Jmountainjr
    Joined: Dec 29, 2006
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    The GM 525 manual steering box was used by GM and others - Nova, Camero, Chevelle, late 60s - mid-80s; Jeep into early 90's. Factory made both long (about 3") and short (about 1") input shafts, as well as both fast ratio (about 4 1/2 turns) and slow ratio (about 6 1/4 turns). Also used in many industrial equipment - fork lifts, farm machinery, etc. Available many places new, used , rebuilt. I've even seen some new "off shore" copies. If you get a used one to rebuild, you can find the rebuild kits at many farm / industrial parts places for about 1/3 of the cost on the auto places.
     

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