Copper headlight ID

Got these two in a parts deal some time ago.

Copper headlight buckets, painted black with a mount on top for a round turnsignal.

The mount on the bottom looks a lot like the guide lights I've got.

The lens ring is chrome and the pull together type (nut and bolt)

The buckets are in perfect condition, but I don't have the turnsignals.. Anyone have any idea what make/model these are? or even better where I could find a pair of clear or amber lights to mount on the top?

Thanks,

 

Have you tried a magnet on them? They may be copper plated steel.

 

Yes, they are solid copper, they have spinning marks on the inside, so they were made on a lathe or something.. but looks factory not home build.

 

Ok, sounds like a custom made or low production vehicle, maybe a fire truck.

 

They are very small for a fire truck, and it looks like they've always been painted black.

ps. I totally agree with your signature.

 

Ok, if they are small they could be motorcycle. Some British bikes had a gauge in the top, maybe an ampmeter. Is any of the hardware odd ball not US standard?

 

They look a lot like painted br*** in the pictures. If they are br***, they could be from one of many different makers. I have no way of knowing the original manufacturer though.

 

Looks like a light, not a amp-meter. Also they are configured more like car lights, not like any of the English bike lights I've ever seen.

Could be br***, not sure until I take the paint off, didn't think about that. That would be great though, the engine I'm using has a lot of cast br*** pieces that I want to keep unpainted.

 

If they were real copper headlights, maybe the holes on top are where the sirens were mounted.

 

If they are like the many I have replated over the years, the shell is made of sheet br***, and the thicker base riveted on is stamped steel. The only solid copper antique parts I have ever had in the shop were for fire engines. If the yellow color on the shells is the base metal showing through, then they are positively 100% br***.

 

Blasted them today, they are br*** just like you say.

The construction is just like what you describe. Would you know a source for light/lenses for the top?

I just got rid of most of my fire engine parts and almost all of the lights were br***, cast and/or turned except the red siren lights, they were steel but may have been a later addition. Still have the rear spotlights for that one, heavy and nice nickel plated br***.

 

I've got a pair. I'll have to dig them out and get a pic of the lens.

Sorry I don't know what make they are.
Clark

 

Sorry, I don't know where to get lenses. I just do the polish/repair/replating, so I hardly ever even see the lenses.

FYI, the shells and bases were originally plated/painted separately then riveted together, but I have had very little issues with replating them together. No one seems to know where to get new rivets like the old ones, so they almost never want to dis***emble them for restoration.

 

lol.. the reason I'm not taking them apart is that I don't want to deal with putting the rivets back in, I'm pretty sure I have some that are almost if not exactly the same.