last bit of mock up on my 31 coupe with 32 frame and tardel k member,39 trans,tardel mounted early master cylinder,and modified 32 pedals just like the book.looking for ideas to mount the return springs for the clutch and brake pedals and how to keep the brake push rod from backing out of the master cylinder?? maybe some kind of stop????any pics???the book does not really show it thanks for any help...
check out C9's (miss him still) version in post 8 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41585&highlight=brake+spring later jim
This is perfect timing for me also. I checked the 'book' also and thought of sending AV8 a PM. They talk about a threaded linkage the the master cylinder. But the original 40 pedals and MC do not have threaded push rod (smooth and concave), neither did the replacement MC I got from MAC's. Also, great avatar, can your friend come to my house and sit on my 60pan for a photo in that same outfit
Normally the floor stops my push rod from falling out of the MC. I use the Ford pins with the extra end for the spring on my pedals and go to the auto parts store for a medium weight return spring. I fab a bracket of some type on the frame to hook the other end of the springs to????
Yep, me too. The bottom of the angled footboard has rubber bumpers where the brake pedal rests, and that is the stop for it. I have a spring running from the short arm on the pedal forward to a tab, bolted to the chatter-rod boss on the flathead. For the clutch, I use a stock '32 Ford spring, and if you are using stock pedals you could do the same. Might need to find a stock K-member for the hole pattern though.
I to had been trying to come up with an appropriate mechanical system to prevent the brake M/C rod from ever backing out. The internal M/C spring seems to return the pedal with ease.
I have always used the repro 32 pedal return springs available from any old Ford parts house. On some altered pedals, I've had to use some heavy fencing wire to act as an extension to reach the appropriate location. All you need is enough pressure to keep the weight of the pedal off of the M/cyl piston. Same for the clutch. Just enough to keep the T.O. bearing off of the fingers. I like to use what a hotrodder could find in the junk yard in 1940. Once you have the proper spring it's just a matter of figuring out how to mount it to do what you want it to do. They have worked for me. Sorry no pictures.
Thanks Tom. I have some springs to play with, stuff I got at Hershey a long time ago. 60's automotive universal stuff. I'm really interested in fool proof methods to keep the pushrod from falling out of the MC. Maybe C9 had the best idea.
Check out this setup that Legens Hot Rods has. Its what I plan to use on my 46 Dodge. http://www.legenshotrod.com/products/detail-parts.html Laine.
Another couple of simple brackets. A spring from an old hood pin and a large washer with a shoulder to stop the spring moving, and a circlip or similar on the pedal rod should suffice.
I did mine similar to mgtstumpy's shown on the blue frame. I used a steel freeze plug with a hole drilled in the center held against the rod end by the jam nut instead of a washer with a shoulder to hold the spring on the pedal end of the rod. Grand total of $4.28 and less than a half hour.
Thanks for some great ideas guys. I've been needing to do this on my project, and now I've got some ideas. What the H.A.M.B. board is all about.....***istance!
Kendeuce, I love deliberate overengineering! never Know when you will have to adjust your pedal return spring pressure a turn or two out on the road...haha. Im not being facile, I really like it.
Just buy some universal spring at a parts store make up some simple brackets to attact to and move on.
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