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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by choptvan, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. choptvan
    Joined: Mar 19, 2010
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    1931 model a pick up. Now I am not very savy on these things. I need to know as much info as possible about this type of build. I would do a search, but not sure where to start? Pretty much clueless. Any help fellas??
     
  2. I'll just put it to ya' this way, Shannon. I think you'll have a lot easier time building your p/u than you had with your Ford in your avatar pic. Much more basic...
    I just started strippin' the frame on my '29 Model AA last weekend so I can start with a clean slate. I'm enjoying the heck out of it so far.
    See ya' this weekend in Gunnison if you're goin'...
     
  3. choptvan
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    Funny. I was JUST reading your thread on another window when I noticed you had commented! I will be there. Wait till you see what I will have this time...
     
  4. If your keen on orignal info, as well as hot rod info, id go do some reading on "Fordbarn".
    Theres no shortage of "A" stuff here, it just depends on the direction your going.
    Now that your've got an "A", you will notice more threads on the hamb as well.
    Good luck with your build.
     
  5. choptvan
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    It is not for me though.. customer. And I have noticed a few more threads now. For sure. Still on the other window checkin the mess out. Lots of nice build out there!
     
  6. carcrazyjohn
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    My advice is to buy a book ...........
     
  7. Von Rigg Fink
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    Cool

    Bummer its not for you
     
  8. choptvan
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    Got a good one I should know about??

    I know! But the cool part about my job is that I get to build all of these cars that I have always wanted and I get to drive them at least once!
     
  9. I would go to an NSRA (or other large club) National and get at least rough starting point. Do you want a concours restoration, a modified 4 banger, a flathead, a small block, a big block? Only you can narrow it down.

    Charlie Stephens
     
  10. If you want a traditional rod (I guess you wouldn't be here if you didn't) then How To Build A Traditional Ford Hot Rod by Bishop/Tardel is a very good start. It's sorta like the bible for A builders.
     
  11. grits
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    Yep, get the book



    President US Chapters Goldchainers C C
    Dallas, Texas Chapter
     
  12. choptvan
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    Traditional style build with a 305/4speed 9 inch rear, tranverse spring front and rear, 32 style rails at least where it can be see, MILD z on the frame, 17 in wires whitewalls ( tryin to talk him into black walls! ) dark paint ( maroon, blue,,, ) drop spring and drop axle in the front, mild 2-3 in chop... right along those lines. But again, I know enough to know what looks good. Not enough to know the little tricks some other guys know.
     
  13. Shaggy
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    traditonal with a 305???
     
  14. VonKool13
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    He said traditional "style". And SBC is traditional in many respects.
     
  15. Von Rigg Fink
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    well, it will be a snap when you go to build your own someday. I learned so much building mine , that If I went to do another one Im sure it would go much faster, as long as the funding was there

    show us what you go to start with
     
  16. choptvan
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    Not this **** again. I said style. Not pure traditional

    Pics to come later today when it arrives. Weather permitting!
     
  17. oj
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    Whats this 'him'? Are you building this for somebody else? And you are on here asking how to do it?
    I have a real problem with that.
    When you build for others that means you have crossed the line and are now a professional. The big difference between a professional and a hobbiest is that when a professional gets advice he has the experience to evaluate it against, a hobbiest doesn't.
    I suggest you build one for yourself before you build for others.
     
  18. choptvan
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    Asking how to build it? Really? Wow. You went way over the fence on that one huh? I was asking for any cool little tips. Any pointers. The things that may never even get posted. **** you can not find unless you know specifically how to type it into a search engine. Sorry to offend you? I guess? I do research on here all the time. I want to ensure it is done right. What's wrong with that? My work is professional. VERY. Look at my posts. Look at my tech week thread. PLEASE. Most all of my buisness is through the HAMB. Not sure what the problem is with asking to be sure first, But there is no way I would know all of these tricks I find out everyday unless I was already 60. I am not ashamed to ask for help. Besides, from what I have seen from my customers, it makes them more comfortable knowing I am doing my best to ensure it is done correctly. Thanks for your input.
     
  19. oj
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    Yeah, yur right i was over the top. Sorry about that, morning grumpiness i guess.
     
  20. choptvan
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    I appreciate the honesty. I was doubting myself for a minute there. Just not sure how to learn all of this stuff besides trying to figure it out myself and doing extensive research. I might have to do things a few times sometimes, But in the end, it turns out great!
     
  21. twinturbo496
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    My car will be painted this week, my very poor old chop job fixed by Shannon.

    Normally I avoid using absolutes like "always", or "never", but I am pretty confident about the following statement:

    Fixing someone else's mistakes is always more challenging than doing the work from start to finish.

    So far Shannon has done a great job fixing my mistakes, at what I consider to be a very reasonable price, in a reasonable amount of time. I expect the finished product to be exactly what I wanted.

    I am pretty sure the owner of the A will be just as happy as I am...
     
  22. choptvan
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    Thank you sir.
     
  23. choptvan
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    some pix if anyone is interested

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  24. motoandy
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    All you have left is to finisher her up,,,,,, good start
     
  25. Looks like a good start. I'd try to pin down your customer. I save pictures from all the
    post here. Good ideas and bad. I like to look before I do. I've built a file of all this stuff.
    Find out what he wants.

    p.s. Are you going to be at carnage this year? I tried to catch up with you last year.
     
  26. choptvan
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    Yes I will. I will be in an ALL black 36 ford coupe. Hope to catch you this time!
     
  27. 1931av8
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    Shannon:

    Just saw this. As you know, I know nothing about Model A trucks. :D

    I had never chopped anything before my truck. It was pretty easy. I had it chopped and tack welded in 3.5 hours. There are a couple of pie (slice) cuts necessary as the A pillar tapers and the cab back at the rear window won't exactly align. I chose to cut between the hinge and the windshield bracket post. 2.5" only.

    Having this to do all over again, I wouldn't have channeled it as deep. I am in for 4.5". The structural support I built into the floor is too stout and thus too deep. I wasted 2.5" there. So...7" total loss due to the channel. I am sure I could have fabbed the floor and engine tunnel with 1" tube only. That 1.5" would have made a difference. I am 6' tall, so have to duck to see out the windshield. Hard on the neck after a 100 or so miles. Those cabs are small so a little more room is worth while.

    Missed you in Gunnison. Starliner maybe?

    Tom
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2011
  28. choptvan
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    I am SUPER pissed about missing the gunnison show. Sux. THat's what happens when you are running a buisnesss though. Damnit. Where is the starliner at? Witchita?
     
  29. Hotrod95
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    Very kool! Can't wait to see it
     
  30. 2935ford
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    I can already see, you're going to have too much fun!
     

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