hey guys, i need to pull the stock tank from my 46 tudor and am having a bit of trouble seeing wear exactly the dang thing bolts on haha. if you open the deck lid you see two holes that about an inch down have some bolts, seems like those should be going into the top of the tank? i popped them out no trouble but it didnt seem to budge? the only other thing i can see under there that may be a tank mount is 2 sets of 3 bolts on each side. they are in a triangle shape with two sorta on the pan and one looks like it could bolt to the tank, and they look to be saftey wired to each other. if these are the back mounts what did i unbolt threw the trunk? up front i can see what looks to be a mount in the center front of the tank, maybe with some sort of thick spring involved? not sure its preety hard to see. ive read this is were the third mount is but how do you access it? just one of those think thin and slid under the car deals? feeling a little lost here, i did a little searching but didnt turn to much up. if i missed something please post a link. thanx guys timm
if i remember right all the bolts are under the car, a couple at the rear and maybe 1 or two at the front, its been awhile, had to pull my pops a few years back. then you just need to disconnect the fill tube which can be fun too....
I just took mine off of my 48 .it has one in the front two in the back.it is tough to get filler tube and gas line off. All bolts are on the bottom side.
One bolt into a captured nut on the tank on each side of the rear frame spreader. one bolt into a captured nut in the front that goes to a bracket bolted onto the spring crossmember. undo the gauge wire, filler neck, and fuel line. be sure you have a support under the tank like a floor jack to let it down easily, they can be heavy if it has some gas in it. better yet, drain the gas first. mine has a drain plug. If you are going to replace it, Bob Drake tanks are real nice. just don't buy the brackets from them, they are chinese and don't fit worth a ****.
ok cool so one front mount, thats only one bolt ive gotta slide under there for as far as the two mounts on the rear, are they the spots im seeing the 3 bolts at on each side? i just dont want to spend time taking stuborn bolts out that dont need to come out. also, any one have any idea what the bolts i took out threw the floor were?? thanks guys this is all helping timm
The bolts through the floor are body mount bolts. On the rear of the tank there are two brackets, two bolts hold each bracket to the rear crossmember and one bolt hold the tank to each bracket. On the front of tank two bolts hold the tank to a tab on crossmember.
Also from memory, I believe the front bracket is a Z-shaped piece that unbolts...be sure to figure out exactly how it goes in before it falls out on you during the dis***embly.
My '47 does not have a front bracket. I got the idea in my head once there should be front bracket and looked at quite a few '42-'48's at the junk yard and never found one with a bracket. Are they all supposed to have a front bracket too? Anyone have a picture? Don't want to change the direction of this thread; but it seems related. Thanks.
At work, with no '48 Ford handy, but I do have the '46 service manual hidden under the desk... It calls for a front bracket, and I know my '48 has one. It says the rear bolts (3 on tank) are also on brackets...remove tank bolts first then unbolt brackets from frame.
haha, i suppose i should bolt those body mounts back in then haha and thank you for clearing it all up for me, the triangle of bolts do seem to be in fact the rear mounts you speak of. any one else have theres saftey wired together? just wanted to make sure i was seeing things right before i snipped it all apart and had something else entirely come apart ha. thinking im going to soak all the bolts in wd40 tonight and drain the tank while i pull the radiator in preparation for yanking the motor/trans sunday. any advice on weather to pullthe front or rear mounts first? and on a long shot any one have a photo of the front mount? im preety positive i saw it last night but i figured if i could look at a photo and figure out how it works before im under the car thatd be of benifit thanx again guys timm
They are safety wired stock. Only online parts book drawing I could find shows everything but what you actually need...but anyhow, you are looking at 3 simple brakets that bolt to frame and bolt to tank, and spring to allow tank to shift a bit. I think you just need a more powerful flashlight to figgeritout. Front comes off first, then of course as you proceed you need to block up the tank. Just keep track of which way the brakets fit... http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/FH_images/FH_fuelsystem-pics/Flathead_fuelsystm_1942-46car.jpg
so fast forward about 5 hours over 2 weeks of trying to get that dang tank out and im pretty much were i started out other then i know which bolts to be angry at. the front mount, i can get this bolt to turn but i think ive gotten a good 30 rotations out of it and it hasnt realy changed at all. like it has a nut on the other side just spinning along with it. but from what i read that should be a caged nut on the other end? there is absolutely no way i can get a finger in there let alone awrench on top of it. has it just got about a billion threads on it or what? the back bolts on the rear cross member are pretty well cemented in place, after chiseling off all the under coating off them and pulling the saftey wires off so i could get a wrench on them they just wont move. like 28 inch breaker bar hit with a 5 pound hammer and wont even make a squeal wont move. any ideas on either of those? id like to not have to cut it out as it seems like its a good tank, and, well, grinding and fire near a gas tank just seems like a bad idea. thoughts?
looking at all the new tanks avalible they have the caged nut on the forward center mount, but some times when i look threw mounting hardware it shows a castle nut. is there any way that the caged nut is spinning? or does this bolt seriously just have a but load of threads on it? man im going to do some sort of celebration dance when i get this ******* out haha
Center punch and drill a pilot hole in the bolt head the depth of the head, increase the size of the hole in a couple of steps to 5/16", put your wrench on it and the head should snap off. Repeat on the other bolts. Use good bits and the tank should be out pretty quick. When you have the brackets off the car, heat the cage nuts up cherry red, bolt stubs usually come out easy. Then take a picture of the front bracket and post it for all to see.
yeah i think that just may happen, im going to grab an impact wrench and see what happens. from what i can see the front bracket is just a flat peice coming off the back of the rear spring cross memeber? ill take pix when i get that dang thing out.
guess we'll find out. if i cant get it by hand and the impact breaks it tonight at least ill know ive got the go ahead to drill them out to get them out as my last resort. right now im trying all my options before removing them with some sort of friction. thanx for the heads up though Rich.
alrighty then, lol. popped the impact on the bolts tonight and they didnt even move. ha, great. headed back in the morning with a grip of drill bits to give that a shot! totaly understand why so many people have lifts in their shops now, haha.
Damn! Still alive! Clearly, you have the dirt-floor determination to conquer the problem and move ahead!
yeah ill get it one way or another...and then do a celebritory dance haha. anyone know of a good book to pick up for these cars? i was thinking about going over to the library and see if they have the chiltons book for this year but figured there may be a dedicated book to the 46-8 fords i should keep an eye out for?
I'm a '48 Ford owner... What you want to consider: 1946 Service manual...repro called '46-48 1946 Canadian shop manual...reproduced with added info as '39-48 shop manual 1942 Ford Army staff car manual...reproduced by portrayal press 1928-48 ch***is parts catalog All are a bit different, all have various pictures, exploded views, etc. If I were starting over I'd want all of them, they are more an investment than an expense.+
Thanks Bruce thats great, are these books i could google or find on amizon or something im going to have to just keep my eyes open for? thanx again
A few months ago I had to remove the tank from my 47' tudor. I broke all of the cage nuts and ended up cutting both rear brackets and the front spring bolt, It was quite the ordeal. You can get the correct front bolt/ spring fairly easily, but those brackets area hard to come by, try to save them. I had to buy another used tank to get them. Keep us updated, Josh
http://macsautoparts.com/early-v8-g...ces-21a-9002-mb/camid/F30/cp/JS0R3CHL1129419/ preety sure those are it?
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