16ga bead roller

i am in need of a bead roller that will role 16ga steel. i have found a few but they are all 5k plus. has anyone made a heavy duty bead roller that will do 16 ga? would it need to be a powered unit?if so i would love to see some pictures.

 

Anyone use any of the cheaper brands (HF etc) to role 16ga with success? if so what brand and did you have to modify it? did it hold up well?

 

Bead roller threads.


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Mittler Bros standard one will do it if you use the steel rolls and dont do it all in one shot.

It wont like and it might complain a bit but it will do it with no ill after effects.

 

My Mittler Bros. does it no problem, but when I bought it they were rated for 16g, they have since lowered the gauge that they are rated for. But I think Jay is correct, go slow and don't try and do it all at once.

http://mittlerbros.com/proddisp.php?ln=1113

 

I have a Pexto and would never go over 18ga. Anything over that
is asking for trouble.Just my 2cents.

 

thanks for all the help! i think i am going to build this machine here http://youtu.be/8aAOQAGsV38 he claims it will do 16ga no problem without distorting the heads (multi p*** of course) any thoughts on the design?

 

i have a severly modified hf bead roller, i use it to do 16 guage steel with pretty deep beads in one p***, it also has a 3' handle for who ever has to turn it. what exactly are you going to be doing?

 

i would love to see the picture of the one that u use for 16ga kkustomz. i am going to be using it to make floorboards and a bed for my 72 IH scout II i will be making some 1'' dies to use for the bed. i plan on doing it in sections so depth isnt a huge problem

 

ok, if i think of it i will take some pics tomorrow.

 

Sounds like a job for a press brake to me. I've done some 16 ga in my modified HF bead roller but you're talking alot of wear and tear on a machine doing a whole truck bed. I'd use 18ga for the floorpans, and maybe even the bed.

 

why not just bend it up on the brake, thas how I did this one. its 16 gauge and needed no subrails when welded up. (yeah my brake is built for doing that stuff)

You could do much the same using 18 gauge and some subrails if your brake is girlie in stature.

 

If you add about 60 pounds of steel to an Harbor freight one it will do it as well.

 

yes you will have to tack weld all the gears in place after you set your correct end play alignment, those hf set screws are junk. who cares there only 100 bucks or so

 

good idea, i will probably just bend the bed up at work ( i have power brakes at work that will do it no problem) i still plan on building the bead roller but i probably wont use it for the bed

 

Here is a less expensive solution:

Bead roller / English wheel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6FQ3dQQzxY

 

my guess would be to use a Niagra 180

 

Just tried this yesterday with my modified Eastwood econ version bead roller (similar to HF) with a 24" wheel turning it. Used the supplied dies in the widest bead version. No flex in the frame.

Rolled it with a little effort (the wife was complaining that it was a little heavy to turn the wheel) in two p***ed with a little spinning of the dies to the maximum depth of the dies.

Problem is the beads are not very deep and pronounced. Works OK in 18G. Going to a different solution for the trunk floor.

Canuck

 

ya that english wheel trick is cool Baileigh but at this point in my life i can only afford one or two of your smaller pieces of equipment . for now i have to make everything or keep an eye out for good deals on used stuff. i will post some built pictures of whatever i end up building

 

The best way to roll 16 ga. I found is tie the top and bottom of the frame work together with a piece of steel. This works best if your just doing a bead around the work piece. I Have a Irvan beader that's made out of two pieces of 1 1/2 square tubing. I put a piece of tubing between these and clamp it in place. It gives you a nice defined bead in 16 ga.

 

Try Lowbuck tools. They make a very affordable one that will roll 16ga. all day long. I bought one 15 years ago, and I still use it as a secondary. Some of the best dollars spent!

 

lowbuck is the winner. their unit is cheaper then building one myself. looks like i will use their bead roller for the base then maybe power it.

 

TINMAN What brake are you using to do that reverse bend in what looks like 1/2-3/4" an inch apart? What gauge?

I had a TENNSMITH and could never get that without it slipping and not anything less then say 1 -1 1/2"between bends.

WHATS THE TRICKK?

 

That baleigh oneooks way cool. How much is it?

 

the Baleigh one is def the best available hands down but the price reflects this at over 5k. if i had a full on shop i would consider buying one for sure