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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 58Darlene, Oct 20, 2011.

  1. 58Darlene
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    Maybe a dumb question, but... We pulled my buddy's Model A apart and there seemed to be safety wire on every bolt. Is this typical, and does it need replaced? Any help is appreciated!
     
  2. squirrel
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    is it an old hot rod? or a stock original? or what? and what all parts had safety wire, just the ch***is stuff or the engine or the body or all of it?
     
  3. tb33anda3rd
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    originals used lots of cotter pins, and safety wire on the flywheel bolts
     
  4. propwash
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    from Las Vegas

    sure they aren't just really strong cobwebs?
     
  5. 58Darlene
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    the engine is a stock model A. No frills. And if I'm not mistaken everything had wire. head bolts, the bearing caps had wire, the flywheel had wire. It seemed a little overkill, but it's the first I've ever pulled apart.
     
  6. chrisntx
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    from Texas .

    The Model A engine vibrated quite a bit and the Ford engineers used safety wire in the rear axle, and engine. I always re-wire to air Force specs, dont just loop it thru like the untrained mechanic before you.
     
  7. 58Darlene
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    Propwash, it could be, hahaha, it sat for almost 25 years before it rolled to a new garage.
     
  8. chrisntx
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    from Texas .

    Never seen any on the head, the rod bearings use cotter pins
     
  9. tb33anda3rd
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    if i remember right the motor mount bolts should be wired also.
     
  10. F&J
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    I just got in a 2dr sedan A to get running for the owner. Last plates are 1955. Anyways, it has those door window anti-rattlers made by aftermarket places way back in time.

    My first ride in an A sedan decades ago, it sounded like all the gl*** was going to shatter at a certain RPM before shifting.
     
  11. Checkerwagon
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    " Is this typical, and does it need replaced? " It does sound like overkill to an extent. I've not seen head bolts wired but when it putting it all back together, ask yourself if it will be a bad idea to safety wire a component. Like Chrisntx said, think of aircraft specifications. Use your head. Aircraft shall not hiccup or stumble, therefor, when in doubt, wire it. I probably safety wire more than the average trash yet I do not worry about the nuts or bolts that I have touched. I've got more interesting things to worry about.
    Dale
    Cleveland OH
     
  12. oldcarfart
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    many of us military background geeks safety wire anything we can!
     
  13. Grumbler
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    Is it stainless lockwire? If so then an old aircraft mechanic for sure[​IMG]
     
  14. bolt_boy_49
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    from USA

    I come from a long line of over builders. I safety wire everything I build.
    Here is a PDF that has lots of good safety wire info.
    Al
     

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