what tool makes this tubing end flair thingy

See post 43.

For GM transmission cooler lines with the circular sping retaining clips.
Some call it by various names.
Push connect, quick disconnect, quick connect,
Jiffy Tight Quick Connect is the correct and proper terminology
Edit:
its not a hose barb or hose retaining bead, it clips into the fitting in the second pic. It's on nearly every GM vehicle produced over the last decade or so


I'm reading that the mastercool set won't do it.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the fuzzy pic.
Edit: see the shadow? the shadow cast by the tube is the most accurate photo representation I could capture.



That ^^^ clips into here.

 

It's a bubble flare. They make a fancy tool for it or you can do this with a normal flaring tool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVbHk0kkX8k

 

I totaly disagree with the video, first that is not what the OP was asking for, the video shows a dude making a flare on the end of the line.
I'm not sure you can make the bubble with the brake line kit in the middle of the line or close to the end like the one in the picture.

 

X2 You need the ****** sticking out of the bubble to keep it centered and seated, if not it will move and leak.

 

Thanks tman, but that's not a bubble flair. The end of the tube is much different . I make bubble flairs all the time like that video.

The pics ****py I know but the shadow is actually easier to see the shape. It's a 5/16 line.

 

Agree, without the ****** it will leak.

 

that is more like a push connect flare. A bubble flare (also known as an iso metric flare) is at the end of a line. like on alot of newer vehicle brake systems.

Here is the tool you need to make that flare
http://www.centurytool.net/71475_Mastercool_Hydraulic_Flaring_Tool_Set_p/msc71475.htm

edit: i just saw where you said that the mastercool set wont do it. I would have to disagree. I think the mastercool set is made to do this exact flare.

 

He is the tool you'll need to make the bubble you're trying to make,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjhK-IP7sRk&feature=related

 

Thats the tool I was referring to.

 

Bcook & grits, have you guys used this tool ? And made this flair.
I have a call into the mastercool tech line still waiting.

Ive read on various other boards that the mastercool tool is a great tool but incapable of creating that GM trans line specific flair. I see responses that say it will, it should, it probably will, but no confirmations. Non have said yes I did it. The pictures on the web site don't show anything remotely close to that "very specific " flair. Push connect for fuel is much different and that is what's shown.

Nor can I seem to find a you tube of anyone using a 400.00 tool to make anything other than easy stuff.

 

I have that mastercool kit and it will make a similar looking flair that is used on GM fuel lines that snap into the nylon fuel line connectors. Your picture is blurry so it is hard to tell if it is the same. I have made that flair as well for use on late model steering boxes that use an oring seal.

 

To perform that 'bubble flare' it is going to be necessary to roll it from the inside.
That will take a Shaft-Die, and a fixture that will hold the work longitudinally while performing the 'roll', lest it wanders into a spiral travel.

The small diameter makes it prohibitive to subs***ute a tool designed for standard flaring.

 

No sir, I have not, only looking at vid's for you and found that tool.
I believe that it will work for you, might just need to learn the tool first and practise a bit. Sorry I couldn't be more help

 

Here's a better pic,

But the shadow cast in the first pic is the best photo representation I could capture.

Again its a GM transmission line.

 

Thanks drop top. Certainly not the fuel line type. Certainly not the o ring style used on GM power steering or 80s fuel systems.
For comparison, this pic is fuzzy too but the difference is plain to see.
Top to bottom:
3/8 fuel push connector GM
5/16 fuel push connector GM
(mastercool makes both of those as you mentioned)
3/8 transmission line push connector GM and the same line as the other pics.

 

One of the smartest tool re-purpose-ings I have ever seen.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51655

 

Thanks mike, you helped me before on some goofy stuff.

I figured it might be some kind of inside start method. However, it must be simple or GM wouldn't have it on everything. I can see ***embly line speed increas but manufacturing must be fast and simple too.

 

My Mastercool #71475 Kit can't do it. For 5/16" tubing, use the "5/16 PUSH-CONNECT FORMING" and the "5/16 ADAPTER SEAT" tools. My kit calls it the GM Push Connect Flare. BUT the flare that it forms is located 3/4" from the end of the tubing, plus its the wrong shape. The 400.00 tools do the easy stuff just like you said.

 

Elpolacko nailed it! Looks to be a pretty simple fab project.

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Elpolacko, & 73rr, that looks like a tool I will be adding some time in the near future.
Sadly that seems to form a simple bead or hose retaining bump.

The one I'm after here is a bit more precisely formed to fit into a machined quick connect fitting.
It is specifically for GM transmission lines.

 

Thanks realkustoms, that's the MALE GM FUEL line quick connect formation . I hear its pretty slick for doing those. Its in the correct place for fuel lines its just not the transmission line male end.

 

Sorry, blew through your primary description too quick.

The hydraflare kit like the one Realcustom51 posted is about your only option. I have the very same kit and while expensive, it works very well.

 

Just trim off the extra tube you don't need.

 

That seems like a reasonable idea, have you tried it and it worked?
I follow lots of your work here so I fully understand how valued your opinion is.

Those two , trans and fuel are completly different

 

Yep, done all sorts of stuff with my Hydraflare. I have even made different mandrels for swaging.

If you were really worried about it, it would be easy enough to lathe up a push mandrel with the length and taper you want. If you were here I could show you how

 

You are correct, I was posting fast at the office and grabbed what I thought was a good answer Never post when you dont have more than 30 seconds to address it!

 

OK, now all of the fussing makes some sense... Have you checked with a GM dealer/zone rep to see if the factory has a proprietary tool or if the name of the tool mfg is available?

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Ok I'm on my way, anything you want to show me how to do out in the shop ,,,, I'm on it like a fat kid on a doughnut.
The push mandrel wouldn't be too much of a problem, the dies on the other hand might be a challenge.

So here's what I'm gonna do based on your info. Besides all their other stuff, Dorman makes the transmission line female fittings and the fuel line male line repair stubs.(same as can be made with hydraflair) I'm going to grab a few and cut them down and see if it works. If the out come is favorable ill be getting a mastercool hydraflair kit. If it doesn't turn out so good ill bump this back up and seek some more help. Maybe one of your cool videos ?

 

Yes of course I inquired with GM.
No tool, no fabrication method, no repair stubs, only part numbers of complete lines.
I didn't get high enough on the food chain to find out the manufacturers.

Dorman also, they carry the female ends and some complete lines, also no repair stubs.

Also checked with my favorite transmission shop and they gave up long ago and just call the dealer.

Cl***ic tube manufactures some of these lines, but no info on procedure or plain material with that end.
Inline tube also has some but same info as cl***ic.

 

Is that a formed or a soldered fitting?