Hurst shifters

Looking for info on these hurst shifters

 

The bottom one was advertised as the Hurst Mystery Shifter . It was an inexpensive shifter that was sold aftermarket and was O E M on Pontiac G T O's in 1964. The shorter one , uh can't say ................ scrubba

 

Thanks Scrubba, is ther any number on the shifters any place that would help identify?
Bill

 

The top one looks very much like the OEM shifter that came in my '75 Camaro, but it was not a Hurst. Do you raise the handle to engage reverse?

 

they are both hurst style that came in production style cars. they are not the same as a Hurst comp plus. but they are interchangable. no thats NOT a mystery shifter.

if you realy want to know what these shifters are how about better pictures??