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school me on 1 ton trucks and larger

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by JAKE'S-Pumpkinella54, Nov 4, 2011.

  1. Can someone tell me what issues you run across when owning a coe truck or just large 1 ton + trucks . As in registering it as personal uses not comercial . Looking at a 50 ish big truck flat bed not a tow truck . Higher taxes ..? inspection issues ? Never dealt with tring to own a coe trucks .. help me out thanks your pal jake .
     
  2. 73RR
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    Rules vary by state. Best bet is to call your DMV, tell them what you have and what you want to do. If you don't get the answer you like then call a different office and ask the same questions. If you hear it twice accept it.

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  3. brad chevy
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    The man told it just like it is. It varies from state to state. In Florida they sell you your tag by weight on a truck that size. And if the total weight is 26,500 and above you are required to have a CDL drivers license to operate it. Check with the state and see what your state requires.
     
  4. Wild Turkey
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    Check the driver's lic. website for your state -- the big problem is when is a commercial driver's lic. is required. One ton truck should be well under the limit, but it varies.

    Then check with your insurance company -- get a quote on the insurance. There may be different options, some cheaper than others but with limits.
     
  5. thanks wild turkey ... now i have to find out on the weight of a stake truck . thanks
     
  6. LowKat
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    In oregon plates are more money for commercial vehicles unless registered as an antique, then the plates are lifetime with a one time registration fee.
     
  7. Slick Willy
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    Jake, just register it as an antique or with y.o.m. plates and youll be all set...dont use it for a company truck or anything.
    My brother just got his '34 dump on the road, no issues...
    Is it the f-3 or f-5 over in southie behind Muls diner??;)
     
  8. slick scoobyscooter is looking for bumper guards i sold mine i sent him your way . And they call us m*** holes .... kindest people on earth . thanks for the info slick .
     
  9. hoggyrubber
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    issues i have ran into are: parts are a lot higher. as far as inspection- not everyone will inspect it, in fact most wouldn't even look at it. i had mine registered as local with low weight plates and taxes weren't any higher than any of the 1/2 or 3/4 tons. i had a 2 ton with air brakes.
     
  10. Slick Willy
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    In MA(with antique trucks) it doesnt matter unless its over 26000 gvrw or air brakes, then the driver needs an endor*****t accordingly...as for inspections with things like an f-3 or so, as long as the truck fits in the bay with the door closed behind it, it can be inspected
     
  11. Slick Willy
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    oh and jake, scoobs got the bumper parts, we just didnt want to tell you so you would claim the finders fee!! :D:p:D thanks,man
     
  12. chopt top kid
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    Around here you could just paint "FARM USE" on the doors...
     
  13. Slick Willy
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    around here you can get in more trouble just painting "farm use" on your doors!!!
     
  14. Donnda
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  15. stude_trucks
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    A 1 ton is essentially just a heavy pickup, no big deal. Anything bigger and it starts to be more heavy duty truck like, but doesn't get too serious until 2 tons and up.

    The biggest problem you will come across is that most older 1-2 ton trucks are geared pretty low and slow and the options for speeding that up aren't super simple short of replacing the rear altogether and dropping a higher hp power plant.
     
  16. stude_trucks
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    A 1 ton is essentially just a heavy pickup, no big deal. Anything bigger and it starts to be more heavy duty truck like, but doesn't get too serious until 2 tons and up.

    The biggest problem you will come across is that most older 1-2 ton trucks are geared pretty low and slow and the options for speeding that up aren't super simple short of replacing the rear altogether and dropping a higher hp power plant.
     
  17. Plop the cab on a newer half or 3/4 ton ch***is, make a new bed, call it done. Generally that's the best part, even if it runs and moves it's going to be slow and get terrible milage. And if it has big tires with split rims, forget it, those are a bear to change. And going to a smaller frame pretty well resolves any registration issues, or at the least will make it cost less as it will weigh less when you're done and usually that's how they charge.

    I see a truck at shows here once in a while with about a '49 Ford COE cab set on a later ch***is with an aluminum tilt-bed on it, the truck stands out because it's never been painted and has that rusty patina look to it. Ch***is is like a 2-ton later Ford or Chevy.
     
  18. thanks guys ... slick im always out to help.. that will be 3.82 plus m*** sales tax that brings your total to 62.50 . slick i need a 54 rear seat , localy and cheap . keep an eye out in your neck of the woods
     
  19. bobwop
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    tires and rims. If it is larger than a one ton, it will likely have split rims. They are a real challenge.

    switching to a modern wheel is possible, but both tires and wheels are expensive.
     
  20. stimpy
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    here in the so******t repubilc of Illinoyed they go by the GVWR of the vehicle on the plates no under plating allowed and they are enforcing it , duallys have to be cl*** D truck plates . , and if its over 26,001 its cdl time , and now with the new federal CDl rules , you have to have a medical card to have the CDL or the license reverts back to a cl*** D . (on CDl )
     
  21. Future Stock
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    Here in Maryland we have 2, 1964 Brockway/Seagrave fire engines for parades. They have Historic (antique) registration. In the GVW block on the registration cards it is marked "N/A". I don't know about daily drivers but any truck with a GVW of 10,001 lbs. or greater requires a DOT Physical Card for the driver. At 26,001 lbs. you have to have a CDL to play.
     
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  22. _ogre
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    usually trucks are cheaper to tag than cars. if your not hauling loads with it you can tag it lower than the gvw, the gvw is the max weight you will haul plus the weight of the truck. aka Gross Vehicle Weight. a 1 ton can be tagged as a 1/2 ton. just don't exceed your tagged gvw.

    the problem with anything over a 1/2 ton short stepside truck is parts. i can buy every stock part for my truck new, except the frame. but if you move up to a 3/4 or larger, suspension parts are impossible to buy. most trucks up to 1.5 ton are the same cab and sheet metal.
     
  23. stimpy
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    must be a maryland thing , as DOT physical cards here in Illinois are only applicable to commercial vehicles involved in interstate commerce per cfr 49 , not private vehicles ( non commercial ) , but then again when I ran chemicals thru maryland it was the only state that required the tractor and trailer to both have placards on the front , not just the trailer .
     
  24. stimpy
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    your lucky , this stupid state makes you do it on the weight thats capable of being moved , not the empty weight .
    but then again what do you expect from a bunch of idiots that bankrupt it and give out more money ..
     

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