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Is This Flathead a Paperweight?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by cactus1, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. scootrz1
    Joined: Apr 16, 2011
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    from usa

    was just told a story yesterday about critters getting into engine and peeing and engine freezing up solid with rust
     
  2. Bruce Lancaster
    Joined: Oct 9, 2001
    Posts: 21,681

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    Wow, Relic...do I see a completely rusted away steel oil pipe, or is that a reversal illusion in the picture?? Research needed...how many gallons of mouse pee to do that??!?
     
  3. 2935ford
    Joined: Jan 6, 2006
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    Remeber when cleaning out all that mouse ****, wear gloves and a mask.....it's toxic!
     
  4. sodbuster
    Joined: Oct 15, 2001
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    sodbuster
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    from Kansas

    I have a couple of those "plastic barrels" if you need to borrow/keep one.
     
  5. I may take you up on that. Thanks Chris!
     
  6. Chris
    Joined: Jan 5, 2005
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    ****, I'd blast all that **** off of it and mag it. If the block has zero cracks, go from there. The seats will probably need replacing...time for a larger valve and a relief job :D Get a Merc crank and rods...pretty much all you need is the block, so don't be too shy and have your friend Mr Torch help you tear down!
     
  7. Relic Stew
    Joined: Apr 17, 2005
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    from Wisconsin


    Just an illusion. The pipe is still there, but has a thick flaky crust around it. I chipped the layer off the top, but it's still under the pipe.

    The road draft tube makes a handy entry way.
     
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  8. RichFox
    Joined: Dec 3, 2006
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    My first 270 was almost that bad. Got it apart, bored it a bunch and ran it for years. Flathead racers do use a torch to cut the valves and springs I am told. Saves a lot of time nd you weren't going to reuse those parts anyway
     
  9. Speedi D
    Joined: Sep 5, 2009
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    Speedi D
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    from Calif


    Cactus1,
    Dale has the inside line here. Determine what you have then make the decisions.
     
  10. What are you saying Rich? That guys like me will do most anything to save a flathead block and get it to the machine shop? You have that right! :D
     
  11. Jack Luther
    Joined: Oct 24, 2005
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    Mike-

    Re-read post #33 above. He's right.

    Jack
     
  12. Gumpy1940
    Joined: Sep 21, 2011
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    get a wire wheel for your drill and clean every surface you may suspect to find a crack you might be surprized it may be better than you think!!
     
  13. I pulled the other head and it looks really good on that side. I need to make a mounting plate to get it up on my engine stand.

    And yes, a mask was worn. Thanks Jack!
     
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  14. Jalopy Journalist
    Joined: Nov 4, 2011
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    from Austin, TX

    Possibly. The caulking on the two rear pistons and the required work looks like it would cost more than it is worth, but hey, atleast it is a really pretty paper weight.

    Actually, how deep is the rot on the bad side of the engine?
     
  15. Mol***as Bath could free it up but it eats aluminum parts . Rob
     
  16. ratamahata
    Joined: Oct 25, 2009
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    from Argentina

    the question is: this flatie is worth, or best keep looking for a better one, I know some of you guys looking for flaties, found some death blocks after to get a good one, 3 or 4 blocks after to get a decent block, It's all about the cracks,
     
  17. stimpy
    Joined: Apr 16, 2006
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    stimpy

    had a 63 chrysler block that was fullof water and must have set for 3 years , and it looked like that , a trip to the hot tank pistons and all ( tank solution ate the pistons out ) , and the the block was salvageable and it was a chicago motor so it froze in the winter too . as long as the ports or water jacket isn't cracked , try to use it .
     
  18. Fortunately the mice didn't fill this one with pee but when I get the manifold off you will see most of the seat cushion. Not a lot of rust in this one, it's from a California field. ;)

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/gB8w3AYE_Tc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  19. Cool video. What is the slide hammer tool doing in the valve removal process?
    And is the keeper removal tool the same as the installation tool?
     
  20. The slide hammer just forces the valve ***embly out by pushing against the block and the guide.

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    The tool for removing the guide clip is a one use tool, to re-install there is a pry bar and you slip the clip in by hand.

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  21. Thanks for the pictures and explanation. I suppose those are flathead specific, not readily available, and fairly expensive?
     
  22. Gumpy1940
    Joined: Sep 21, 2011
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    thanks for the video and showing your tools....gump
     
  23. They are specific and old (they simply say "for Ford V8") I don't know how expensive they would be, you can't get them new, might find them at auction or ePay.
     
  24. Here is a couple for puting it back together.

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    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kpDHpZcKWhY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  25. custom1947
    Joined: Nov 5, 2011
    Posts: 1

    custom1947
    Member
    from Michigan

    Cant get my brake lights to work on my P-15 any suggestions?????? 47 special deluxe
     
  26. Love the vids! You don't need no stinkin' engine stand!
     
  27. hiboy32
    Joined: Nov 7, 2001
    Posts: 2,797

    hiboy32
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    from Omaha, NE

    Hey if you are read to give up on that old flathead... I have an extra 8ba that Needs a new home
     
  28. Kevin Lee
    Joined: Nov 12, 2001
    Posts: 7,676

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    For everyone following: With the ***istance of a KD-917 and KD-918 Mike and I were able to pop every ***embly but one – the intake side of number eight. I left for home around midnight with the whole thing soaking in PB Blaster and receiving a stern talking to.
     
  29. I think that will do the trick! :D
     
  30. Hahaha! Thanks again. I still can't believe that worked as well as it did.
    A heavy relief job, chain-driven blower and and something to run it in and I'll be all set!

    Oh, and Jeff, thanks for the offer. I have an 8RT in the corner that spins and everything, but Kevin told me to quit messin' with that "late model junk" haha!
     

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