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Should it really be illegal to kill your "friends"?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hot Rod To Hell, May 30, 2005.

  1. Hot Rod To Hell
    Joined: Aug 19, 2003
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    Hot Rod To Hell
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    from Flint MI

    Well, we ran into some unforseen problems on the coupe, so it won't be done for Billetproof.

    I decided to thrash on another "top secret" project over the holiday weekend so I could take that instead...

    I had a lot of enthusiastic volunteers, that all actually seemed to be into the challenge of the short deadline...

    Sunday, we were supposed to have a crew of about 10 guys... there were 4... INCLUDING ME!:confused:

    Today, there were supposed to be about 10 guys again, and a few of the guys that didn't make it Sunday ***ured me they'd be here today... well, including myself, today's crew was 2.:(


    The guys that DID show (Dirty T, Fat Hack, Jdubbya, Kritz, and a few guest appearances by Primer), worked their ***es off and I appreciate it, MAJORLY...


    But, there's a very real possibility that this won't be done in time either, mostly because I thought my friends had the same conviction and willingness to help that I have, and I was relying on their help to get this done.

    I'm not trying to sound like a *****, but why would these guys volunteer and pretend to be all into the project, then just not show?

    I have ALWAYS gone out of my way to help my family/friends out, I thought that was pretty normal.

    The next time any of THESE guys ask for help, I think I'm busy.:(
     
  2. 133
    Joined: Dec 30, 2003
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    133
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    i hear ya on this matter, sorry to hear about your misfortune. i always have supposed "friends" verbally commit then not show and give me some lame excuse as to why they couldn't. i agree, if they ever need help, say you're busy or whatever.
     
  3. Fat Hack
    Joined: Nov 30, 2002
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    Fat Hack
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    from Detroit

    Bryan and I are planning to show up again tomorrow as well.

    It ****s that you didn't have the help you needed today, but so long as there is a ghost of chance, we'll be there to help what little (?) we can...

    DirtyT and I build cars the same way, so let us kinda take over the directive operations a little tomorrow...we have a system that works well, and we want to try it out and see if we can do the Impossible and get you going by Saturday morning. You are facing a monumental task and overwhelming odds...it'll take everything we got to do it, but Bryan and I are commited so long as you're still in the Fight, Bro!

    To cop a sappy quote from a favored 80s movie for inspiration...

    "They say we'll never make it."
    "You just described every great success story!"

    ;) :cool:
     
  4. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    Some people are only "friends" when THEY need something.

    **** 'em.
     
  5. Levis Classic
    Joined: Oct 7, 2003
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    Levis Classic
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    Dont forget Frank workin on that Ch***ie!
     
  6. Flathead Youngin'
    Joined: Jan 10, 2005
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    Man, I hear ya buddy! Maybe I'm just too nice a guy or just plain stupid, but if a buddy of mine really needed something I'd be there. I can't say the same about some of them.....

    Just like when I put a turbo charger on my pal's 02 Trans Am. He was all GUN HO to get it done. Well, we tore into it and did what we could that day. It sat there for two weeks and I kept calling and asking when he could come down. "I'm sick or I have to work, etc. etc." Well, I thrashed it all by myself for about 2 days straight. I didn't bother to call and tell him that it was ready for about a week........why........because I was driving the **** out of it! NEVER again..........and he wonders why he can't FIX anything.....he's NOT willing to learn......

    anyway...I hear ya!!!
     
  7. 296 V8
    Joined: Sep 17, 2003
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    296 V8
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    from Nor~Cal

    Look at it this way, now you know who your friends are. I found out who my friends were and weren’t when I ended up sick and in the hospital unexpectedly. Be glad you didn’t find out that way.
     

  8. Why do ya' think they have the club(?) plaque that says, "LONE WOLF" ?
     
  9. AA/Fuel34fordpu
    Joined: Mar 15, 2005
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    AA/Fuel34fordpu
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    It sounds like we all know the same guys!!!!!!.........
     
  10. leadsleadolds
    Joined: Jun 7, 2004
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    leadsleadolds
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    Same reason I stoped helping people move. Where were they when I had to get my **** out.
     
  11. Chopped50Ford
    Joined: Feb 16, 2003
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    That is why I started charging my "friends" for body and metal work on thier cars. I would donate my time and materials to get thier rides to thier liking.

    They would come around when thier cars were here at the house being worked on, when they were done....they were "out."

    Of course, when thier cars jumped curbs or got dings, they were at my front step..."Hey Buddy, what's up!"

    I started asking for $$$ to help out on materials, and maybe some of thier time......since mine were exhausted...they never come around anymore...

    go figure.

    Now...free schitt is free schitt....I dont think I need to say anymore.

    I guess if I could count how many good friends I have w/ my hands...One is all I need.
     
  12. kritz
    Joined: Aug 6, 2003
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    kritz
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    from flint, mi

    man, i'm glad i showed up today...otherwise you would REALLY be pissed!!!!!

    hell, i'm trying to figure out how i can jockey my schedule around so i can make it back out this week to give ya a hand again...working on other peoples stuff is pretty fun!!!

    steve has helped me out with a TON of car related stuff...i'm happy i could finally start paying him back a little by helping with this project.


    oh yeah steve...my gas gauge is magically working now...wierd.
     
  13. When I can, I help, but I've also found that there are people out there who are just flaky.

    I've gotten e-mails and phone calls for help - I offer help, but they never get back to me - weird.

    I rarely ask for help, because there are few in my area who can, or will help, so I do it myself.

    Hope you get done what you need,

    Cosmo
     
  14. CherryBlossom
    Joined: May 25, 2003
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    amen.
     
  15. flatheadpete
    Joined: Oct 29, 2003
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    flatheadpete
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    from Burton, MI

    Sorry Steve....family first. I didn't get a couple things of my own done because of a family function.
     
  16. leadsled01
    Joined: Nov 19, 2004
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    I know exactly what you mean.. People who I thought where my freinds never came around to even say Hi, but people who were acqantance of mine showed up and even raked/mowed/cleaned gutters for me.
     
  17. JOECOOL
    Joined: Jan 13, 2004
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    Years ago a friend begged me to help him Bondo and paint his GTO. after it was done he immediatly sold it and bragged how he had made a grand on the deal . How much do you suppose he gave me ? It wasn't long before he drug home another project and ask my help ,I quoted him $1000 and he has never shown up.

    Talk about friends ,last summer a good friend died unexpectedly of a m***ive heart attack.
    It wasn't 2 days till his supposed friends were lobbying his widow to buy all his stuff. He had a collection of about 15 cars ,half of them real nice. The step son sold off tools and equipment for almost nothing while his Mom was at work .Supposed friends would show up at the door and tell her that such and such tools were borrowed from them and they wanted them back.

    Before she lost everything she finally wised up ,now she doesn't trust antbody.
    The step son took the Callenger 6-pac up and down the road enough times he floated the valves and punched holes thru the pistons.
     
  18. Thirdyfivepickup
    Joined: Nov 5, 2002
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    No.

    Start slinging lead. :D


    If I were closer, I'd offer to help.

    (the 10-hour round trip would be murder.)
     
  19. Hot Rod To Hell
    Joined: Aug 19, 2003
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    Hot Rod To Hell
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    from Flint MI

    Don't worry Mike, you've already helped a bunch! (And, I don't think my bullets will make it that far!:D )
     
  20. coupe33
    Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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    I found out a long time ago I have no friends. I help who I can but it has always been one way. I have an older son that will come along and give a hand and I do the same for him. The road trips for parts are the best Wisconson, New Jersey,Pennsylvania. It takes a lot longer and some real effort on the heavier parts but what are the options?
     
  21. kustombuilder
    Joined: Sep 18, 2002
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    kustombuilder
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    from Novi, MI


    what the hell are you doing on the computer?? don't you have a car to thrash on!!?

    man i did'nt know you were havin people over to thrash on it or i mighta tried to make it out one day. i've got lots of time, being laid off and all, but only one vehicle. if you tell me when you'll be out there i'll see if i can work it out to where i can come out one day after i drop Kris off at work. i'll be limited on the amount of time i can stay so make sure you have a list of things to do ready so i can be as efficient as possible while i'm there.
     
  22. fab32
    Joined: May 14, 2002
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    :confused: ;) :rolleyes:
     
  23. Hot Rod To Hell
    Joined: Aug 19, 2003
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    Hot Rod To Hell
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    from Flint MI

    Honestly Mike, today's the last chance I'll have to work on it in any sizeable amount. I'm out of money... I need to work the next couple of days to make some more!
     
  24. hotrodladycrusr
    Joined: Sep 20, 2002
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    Sometimes friends have very good intentions of helping but life stuff gets in the way and sometimes folks hear what they wanna hear such as "Sure I can help out", when in fact the person said, "I'll try to help out". Not saying this is the case in your situation but I know from first hand experience sometimes people hear what wasn't said.

    Also, sometimes folks have unrealistic goals and deadlines, self-imposed I might add. I know that has happend with me recently. I thought my top would be installed by now and that by the end of the month I'd have my interior in. Very unrealistic deadline that I self imposed. There just isn't enough time in the day, and nite, to work a real job, work on car stuff, and deal with life stuff.

    The build process takes way more time then most realize and I know now that I just have to take each day step by step and get what I can done WITHOUT counting on anyone else's time or skill. If friends help out well then thats just an added bonus but I have learned not to expect it and when it does happen, and it has happened alot, I am just grateful for the time, effort, and skill that they donated.

    I wasn't privy to your "super secret" build project so I can't really comment on whether you had a realistic deadline of Billetproof or not cuz you know a full build takes WAY MORE TIME then just a couple of weeks. After all this isn't just bolting on a couple of go fast speed goodies and calling it a day.;)

    I know your disappointed in your friends behavior BUT true friends are a precious commodity so don't discard them over one little thing. Give them a chance to explain.

    Looking forward to seeing YOU this weekend no matter what car you bring.
     
  25. Don't you people get it? A friend is someone you can count on no matter what. Stop calling people who do **** like this to you your friends. They're not. Write them off.

    I seriously think I have five friends. I hold these people in the highest regard and would do anything for them. Anything.

    If you say you're going to do something, do it. If you can't make it, pick up the ****ing phone and call.

    **** every single one of you *******s who flakes out all the time. Burn.
     
  26. Bumpstick
    Joined: Sep 10, 2002
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    I'm with 'hotrodladycrusr' on this one. Just because someone can't make it is no reason to write them off. How many time have you had your wife/girlfriend ask you stay with her because you didn't give her a heads up. Or your mom just called about her birthday brunch etc. etc.. If my friends can't make it they're still my buds. It's about having fun. They're friends not employees -stick
     
  27. Oh that was so well said.
     
  28. jdubbya
    Joined: Jul 12, 2003
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    About the only thing I can be good for the rest of the week, would be supervising. I can deal with my cold, but I had to go to the clinic today, and they put me on crutches until the weekend, but that is another story. Sorry man!
     
  29. forsakenfew
    Joined: May 30, 2003
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    from seattle


    hahaha, ok ok anthony, i'll be sure i'm at your house at 4pm sharp!!!
     
  30. I have a beautiful wife and two wonderful children. I have a very, very close group of friends, although small. I made it that way. I have a nice home, a demanding job, and many projects. These are EXACTLY the reasons I wrote what I did. My time is worth alot to me. Waiting around for someone to show up when I could be spending time w/ my family or on my projects is not my idea of a good time.

    You've got a lot of nerve to say what you did. Talking about someone's car/material things is one thing. Saying what you said, ***uming something about my family...you're asking for trouble. I'll make sure to look you up at the parts counter at Randy Wise Chevy in Flint next time I come through.
     

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