Furnace Welding shops?

I'm hoping to find a shop in Ohio but any you may know of might be of use to someone.

Just for the record I can pin it,epoxy, braze, solder and at times I've had luck welding cast iron but for this one I'd like to find a shop that can properly heat and weld it.

Thanks

 

ask eastcoast57 he is redoing some heads he thought might be cracked and mentioned that his engine guys in cinci could repair cracked cast iron using the furnace welding process

 

Midwest Cylinder Head, Nevada Iowa

http://midwestcylinderhead.com/

 

Thanks, any others out there? The net is flooded by ads for the pin and plug companies so I've yet to find much.

 

Columbus Col-Weld Corp. (614-276-5303) might be what your looking for.

 

yeah , The Late Al Mathon was a master of the process

http://66.154.44.164/forum/showthread.php?t=377546&showall=1

 

I could do it if I were working but try Triumph in Forest Ohio...

 

Try Indy Cylinder Heads.

Blind Elwood

 

Thanks again, any more suggestions?

So far those I've called dance around what they consider a "weld"...so If you find yourself in my shoes make sure you ask what your dollar is going for as so far not one was honest enough to say what thier repair would be without badgering and directly telling them I'm not looking for br*** or pins.

As of yet I've found $100 per inch s***ch pin "welds" and places that want to use a "special" bronze rod to "weld" it in the $400-$800 range to get it in the oven plus shop time and materials.

 

Midwest Cylinder head did the dance too?

 

...you are looking for special talent in a world of 'use-once and throw-away'...
Be sure to let us know what you find. Before and after pics would be real nice.

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Pictures of what you want to do would help. If I was close to you I could do it for you. I have a neat way to do perfect cast iron repair jobs with TIG welding. (Of course there is pre heat heat, maintaining temp and post heat followed by controlled cooling involved)

 

Dover cyl heads in chattanoooooooooooooooga,800 782 0541

 

"Furnace" welding can cause distortion and generally requires an overall re-machining. If you can tolerate that distortion, gas welding with the part heated red(or hotter), then properly cooled, is the best possible repair.

Some some prototype and race stuff is still made, reworked, or repaired this way.

I once worked with a guy who did quite a bit of "furnace" welding of iron. Most likely for the reasons you stated, I believe he stopped doing it a long time ago.

 

Algon ,
Have a read of this thread about cast iron repairs. I used to help a guy I worked for as a teenager doing this kind of work. He used , by todays standards, very low tech but effective methods. Have a read. You might be inspired to have a go yourself.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3568236&highlight=head#post3568236

 

I greatly appreciate the suggestions and I've actually had good luck welding cast iron in the past. Honestly I've also been involved in pinning welding and brazing up quite a few things including early Packard twelves which are a bit more pricey than 406 Ford's... I was just hoping I could find a place that could properly heat and weld it before I give it a shot or decide to fill it with hard blok. If it was something more common or planned for a stock build I would not be apprehensive about it.

6inarow I'll send you a PM

 

that's funny. I lived in nevada two years and had no idea they were there.

 

there was a shop in los angles called MAX'S WELDING. contact EGGE MACHINE in los angles also.

 

There should be marine repair shops that can weld cast iron. Many big commercial ships have castings that need repair and are nearly extinct or a new casting is the same amount as some countries GNP.

 

I used to use these guys and had good luck. It's been a long time ago though.
Pollema Manufacturing Inc
2011 10th St
Rock Valley, IA 51247
Phone : (712) 476-5328
Product & Services:
Machine Shops
Repair Shops & Related Services

 

Many years ago, I sent a set of Super Duty heads to a shop in CA. that did a ferrous-nickel spray weld for cast iron. The heads had a criminally bad "port" job as well as a cracked chamber due to a hydro-lock problem. When I got them back, they looked better than new. It wasn't cheap at around $1800 or so for both heads. It was worth it though. I'll be darned if I can remember the name of the place though...

 

http://www.thomasnet.com/northern-ohio/brazing-services-furnace-7970882-1.html

This is a place to start a search.

 

Thanks again for all the suggestions and PM's.

Many of the shops I called either would not answer, had no interest or gave me the same as above. Many capable shops will not touch a single project such as this either.

I ended up talking to a guy I used to work for about a 67 435hp vette we did about ten years ago that had a cracked block. Here the shop that welded it was in Akron (R-R Cerrito). The place does a bit of everything and the owner is a Ford guy. He called it an easy job and quoted me a ballpark of $200 so I put down $300. I'll let you know how it turns out.

 

It's been sometime but I wanted to update this in case someone else needs a block or head repaired. The block was magged a second time, ground out, heated, and tig welded with castiron rod. We found more small cracks that had not surfaced when it was magnafluxed so it's not as "pretty" as it was after the original major repairs were made. Looking at the way these appeared I beleive they were always there just they had not cracked to the surface before the block was heated. On top of water damage this block was actually in an accident on the way home from the machine shop before it was repaired.

Regardless at this point I'm rather pleased no nickel rod, no br***, no plugs, no pins, I wasn't lied to and the price was less than most wanted for an oven charge alone. I also had a friend out of state send in a cracked iron FE head who is thrilled.

http://www.rrcerritowelding.com/

 

lookin good

 

Nice to know that the skillset is still out there