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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by lowko50, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. lowko50
    Joined: Oct 2, 2011
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    Ok, here is my big problem, I keep getting bubbles in my paint. When I had a Hot Rod Flatz color I started getting bubbles, in different areas, so I had them sanded down and body worked, then I went with a gloss black paint job and after awhile the bubbles came back, what a bummer. Any advice, I'm about to sand down again and repaint.
     
  2. BISHOP
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    Your laying on too much material. The top coat is "skinning over", meaning the last coat is drying faster than the previous coats under it. The g***es in the material get trapped and form bubbles.

    Slow down........... Thin coats, slower reducer,.... and what tip is in your gun.
     
  3. flamed34
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    How long after painting are the bubbles showing up? Immediately or a certain period of time?
     
  4. lowko50
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    When I had the Hot Rod Flatz it was awhile before bubbles surfaced. When I went with gloss bubbles surfaced next day. They pop out more in the sun when I uncover in garage not noticeable. I really don't want to take whole car bare metal, to much body work and $$$.
     
  5. tb33anda3rd
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    could be on e of two problems; solvent pop, as said too quick next coat trapping solvents or water in your supplied air, causing water to pop out through surface.
     
  6. gear_head
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    Also could be a form of silicone contamination. Don't ask how I know (never, never, never will allow anybody within a mile of my shop to use armor-all!!!)
     
  7. 53sled
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    control your environment, start eliminating variables, maybe do a few test panels. it ****s starting over and over.
     
  8. lowko50
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    Thanks for the responses, really appreciate it. The bad thing, the owner of the shop that painted my car new it was bubbling and painted over them.
     
  9. natez1
    Joined: Jul 22, 2011
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    from washington

    Most likely water miosture in the paint when painted before. As the temp and humidity change the bubbles grow or shrink. Only solution is to strip it and repaint with a clean air supply and controlled enviroment.
     
  10. pimpin paint
    Joined: May 31, 2005
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    Or both of these:(

    Or any spray type lubricant:mad:

    Yep, but painting over old paint problems is the surest way to produce new paint problems:(

    Than this sounds like a painter's problem, not an owners, unless you paid nothing for the work:D

    " Life ain't no Disney movie "
     
  11. Hotrodbuilderny
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    Had that problem, there was a detail shop next door, in the summer he worked outdoors, spraybooth pulled the armor all in when we turned it on. Took a few screw ups before it got figured out we were always careful about using prepsol every step of the way.
     
  12. pimpin paint
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    hey, the use of "Prepsol" or other pre-cleaning type solvents is cheap insurance against paint problems ''if'' used with clean rags!
    Bad rings in an old comperssor, a bad dryer/oil serperator & old hose can all spell trouble to a paint job :mad:

    " Humpty Dumpty was pushed "
     
  13. zman
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    yep, the first thing that would be suspect to me is what you're painting over.
     
  14. Hotrodbuilderny
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    Used prepsol every phase, even in the spraybooth just before tacking down. The problem was the detail shop next door was spraying armor all out of a spray gun while we were spraying cars the air intake of the booth was pulling it in from outside. Once we found the problem we were able to coordinate with them and never had the problem again.
     
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