"Thats right Bob", quess what Four Banger's build is and win 2 a FREE Eagle Field DVD! Certain restrictions apply Seriously (I'm am serious about the DVD), There were some guesses on Old28's build thread and I thought it was pretty interesting and we'd have some fun with it. Here are the guesses so far................. Side by side middie bangers? Old6Rodder A Kenny Ellis type 3 wheeler with sidwinder engine position, laid flat. bobw How about a corvair???????????? superbender Driver alongside the engine Toymaker OK let the contest begin, and if ya already know keep it to yourself until Four Banger gives it up, PM me though and I'll send you a DVD for the inside scoop
LOL! Rocky, you're a rabble rouser....I know the answer, so do I get the DVD? LOL! I will say this.....I wish I were building ANY of the configurations that others have guessed so far. All would be very very cool, especially the Corvair! But no, this will be different, and in all the research I've done (and that's a bunch) I haven't seen it done yet. My closest friends and advisors, and most vocal enemies all agree it will not work, yet can't really explain why. Well, as the "Is That a Hemi ?" guy on TV says......"We fixin to find out"
Ah, I don't think so!! Rule #7.!!! No slingshot chassis. Driver and engine must be positioned between the front and rear axles.
The "Bustle Bomb" was, One engine in front of the driver the other engine was behind the driver..It was NOT a slingshot.. BTW One Cadillac and one Oldsmobile
I suppose the greater point however, was the fact that the ENGINE must be between the axles, not hanging off the rear. So far, we're 5 for 5. Nope. Close but no cigar. Good guess, but no. I wish! and WRONG! Hmm...how about twin side by side engines with the driver sitting BETWEEN the engines????? No, it's not that either!
Well, all we have is that it's a six, inliner, isn't particularly wide, and hasn't been done before. I guess we can assume things like four wheels, forward facing driver , etc. I'm thinking (since that obviously precludes a twin banger middie ) perhaps a frontie/frontie?
Wow! I don't remember the "Bustle Bomb" being that short. It DOES kinda make ya all warm and tingley, doesn't it? Dick, you confused me there at the end.....what do you mean "frontie, frontie"? Perhaps you have another good idea that I wish I would have thought of myself?
I am thinking transaxle-short coupled mid-engine. And pulling wheelies, unless it is long. What ever it is, when you get it to the track we will see a large smile on your face. That picture in my avatar is my McCloud steel flywheel, and clutch.
Another good idea, and one I considered. I couldn't locate a transaxle that I thought could take the abuse. At least one I could afford to buy, anyway. I've personaly snapped the jack shaft on a couple Corvairs wit stock engines. The VW bus boxes aren't much better. I also wrecked a Pontaic Tempest transaxle with a stock slant four.....Porsche 914 seems to be the one to get, but the few I've located were priced....well...north of what I was willing to pay. So, that idea went away too. Sorry, but that's not it!
Front engine, front wheel drive (think Auto Union). Hey, t'was just another hit on the ol' bong, yeah?
Yes, I know what the Bustle Bomb was, and yes it had one engine between the axles , that is not the point , Jeff/21 was suggesting that Four Banger's build would be one engine behind the diff.........which does not meet rule 7.
Does this bring you any flashbacks? " Four Banger" 11-21-2010............Mine would be something mid engined, with the engine offset beside the driver. Power would come from a high winding four cylinder, and the whole thing would weigh around 800 pounds. Something kinda like the "Midnight Oil" dragster, only with the engine further rearward. I'd lay the engine over about 20 degrees, and run the intake runners straight up to the carbs, and have the exhaust stacks run down and out the other side , "weed burner" fashion. The top of the roll bar would be around 40 inches off the ground, and the wheel base around 90 inches. American slots on the rear, and motorcyle wires up front.....
Hey 97, I do indeed remember specing my "Dream Car". I still want to do that one day. Trouble is, I had a crap ton of more common parts laying around from projects gone by, so I elected to use what I had, and add the missing parts that were easier (and cheaper)to find. Like most, money is tighter than ever before, and I'm actually using one hobby (Building custom motorcycles) to finance my racing aspirations. Man, you were digging around in my deep dark past looking for clues! Good thinking.....sorry it didn't bear fruit, though !
DING ! DING ! DING ! VROOT ! VROOT ! VROOT ! WE HAVE A WINNNAH ! Our friend, gentleman scholar, and west coast HA/GR guru, Old 6 Rodder hit it on the head! Dick, it may have been just "Another hit on the ol bong", but you had the right smoking material in the ol bowl!!! Yes, think back to the Auto Union and Miller cars, and you're right there! I'll describe how it will work, as soon as I hammer out the dirty business of the necessity of awarding duplicate prizes with Rocky. You see, there were two correct guesses, that came from different directions.....
OK. Now that the proverbial "Cat" is out of the bag, start a build thread. We need pictures. Sounds like a fun concept and it will be neat to see it come together. Should be neat to see how light you can build it and how you layout the chassis. Neat to see more outside the box thought.
Hey 'Banger that was fun..............now I'm going to start with my "novice" drawings The first one one I drew up a while back and called it "Pipe Load", changed it just for you!
ROFLMAO! Rocky, I love the way you just turned the cockpits around backward on your origonal drawings! Good stuff! I need to do a drawing myself, and post it on here. I don't have photoshop, but I can do a color drawing, and scan it in and post it, I suppose. I'll need ny Daughter's help, I'm sure......Hey, check your private messages, I sent you a note.
I'd love to do a mid engine sidewinder, but with a conventional dross drive type transaxle, the rear of the chassis would need to be around 46 inches wide....kinda clunky looking. Mine will have the engine running fore and aft, mounted backward in the chassis. The trans tail shaft will connect to a Datsun Z rear center section, turned upside down. I'm still debating the solid front end vs suspended arguement. Both have their own merits. I'll use rear brakes only, to facilitate stationary burn outs. Plans are for AMC drums and spindles bolted to a cross tube behind the seat. The main frame rails (2X4 tubing) will only be around 6 inches off the ground, and the driver seat will mount at that level, making for a very low roll cage profile. The rear axle will run directly behind the seat at about kidney level, and the pedals will mount about 8 inches behind the crank pulley. The "office" should feel roomy, without the trans and driveline running down the middle. Everyone feel free to tear my dream to pieces, and tell me all the reasons this can't/won't work. I've heard some opinions already, but I have pretty thick skin It's possible that function might actually follow form on this car, but hey, the cool factor should be right up there.....
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