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Classic car insurance question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Groucho, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 4,300

    denis4x4
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from Colorado

    I have four cars with Hagerty at an agreed value in six figures and the premium went down this year. One of the things I noticed when I got the policy was the attachment referring to Colorado insurance laws. My Hagerty policy also meets the requirements of my homeowners umbrella coverage.
     
  2. Bob K
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 5,772

    Bob K
    Member Emeritus
    from Antigo Wi.


    That's who I have had all 4 of my cars through for 15 years, have had several small claims, (mostly windshields) and never a problem. It might help that I am also an Independent Agent for them but I don't think so as far as rates are concerned.

    Groucho, if you can still read this, give me a call at seven one five, six two seven, four three zero two.

    B[​IMG]B
     
  3. Bilt
    Joined: Jun 23, 2011
    Posts: 311

    Bilt
    Member

    My father is a independant insurance agent and he just placed me with Hagerty. He looked into several and for my needs Hagerty fit the best. Its a 62 Nova covered to $8,500 with a $500 deductable. My yearly payment is $144!!! It does have some requirements on my policy....3000 miles a year and the car has to be kept in a locked garage. When it goes to the shop they prefer to have it at a shop where it can be kept inside. We will see how it works out. I just got it last Friday so I hope I don't need to use it for awhile.
     
  4. young'n'poor
    Joined: Jan 26, 2006
    Posts: 1,281

    young'n'poor
    Member
    from Anoka. MN

    I have my galaxie insure with american family, and my 53 before that. I have regular plates, no garage or mileage restrictions, and its still cheaper than my other "daily driven" vehicles. I had to have an appraiser come look at the vehicle and photograph it, but he turned out to specalize in classic vehicles and was spot on with the value I thought it deserved.

    I would check with whoever you insure your dailys through, because american family does also have classic insurance for vehicles with YOM or classic plates. It never hurts to ask.

    I guess this is a tip for others, since Groucho is gone, but still thought it was worth sharing
     
  5. NONE of the specialty insurers will write for a daily driver, period.
     
  6. yblock292
    Joined: Oct 10, 2006
    Posts: 2,937

    yblock292
    Member

    got my hagerty bill last week, dropped $67 over last year, thought they made a mistake and called them, nope went down!So i added more coverage.
     
  7. Bob K
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 5,772

    Bob K
    Member Emeritus
    from Antigo Wi.


    Just a thought, Cont. Western has NO MILAGE LIMITATION ON HOT RODS AND KUSTOMS. That is another reason I have my coverage with them. The others all wanted no part of my policy because of the number of miles I rack up.


    B[​IMG]B
     
  8. Something else to consider is that each state has it's own insurance commission that mandates coverage it thinks is important. That's what makes comparing premiums and policy "restrictions" from different states generally worthless. Also, location plays into the potential loss calculations that drive premium rates, so for example, a higher crime area will likely cost more than a lower one.

    Since Groucho is banned we may have to find out through others what the deal with 4 cars is. It could be that California has impossed some new law/rule/restriction/whatever (who woulda imagined that!) that causes the company to put the car count up for new policies to make it pencil out.
     
  9. A Rodder
    Joined: Jul 13, 2008
    Posts: 2,474

    A Rodder
    Member

    I've used state farm for years. I have referrered over ten friends to my agent, specifically for the classic coverage. Its cheap and covers good. Check them out.
     
  10. M.Edell
    Joined: Jun 5, 2009
    Posts: 4,183

    M.Edell
    Member

    Ive had Hagerty(pricey) good Service, Grundy(cheaper, shitty service) and now I have it through my local Farmers Insurance, my agent is a car guy and I get exceptional service and a good rate.
     
  11. mj40's
    Joined: Dec 11, 2008
    Posts: 3,303

    mj40's
    Member

    I was with State Farm for years. Agent also a car guy. Policy scared me even though I had photos on file with them. What the agent tells you is differant than the company says. I changed my coupe with Grundy for about 6 months and added my pickup. I had a small claim on the coupe and was paid in a couple days after filing. The only thing I noticed was they do as other companies and up your coverage without asking. Automatic thing I heard. I contacted my agent and he fixed that. Happy here! :)
     
  12. Bob K
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 5,772

    Bob K
    Member Emeritus
    from Antigo Wi.

    THE MOST IMPROTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS WHAT KIND OF COVERAGE THE COMPANY PROVIDES


    STATED VALUE:

    That means the company is allowed to depreciate the value of the vehicle at the time of the claim from the amount that is stated on the policy. So if your vehicle is totaled or stolen and not recovered the company will depreciate your claim downward from the STATED VALUE shown on the policy.

    AGREE VALUE:

    That means the the company WILL NOT depreciate the value of the vehicle at the time of the claim from the amount that is AGREED on the policy. So, if your vehicle is totaled or stolen and not recovered the amount that will be paid is the AGREED VALUE stated on the policy.


    I am not familiar with states other than Wisconsin but to my knowledge the ONLY companies that write an AGREED VALUE policy are the specialty companies, meaning that main line insurance companies such as State Farm, American Family and such only write Stated value policies.
     
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2011
  13. 29sportcoupe
    Joined: Jan 14, 2008
    Posts: 350

    29sportcoupe
    Member
    from arizona

    I had Hagarty years ago but they would not cover my early Bronco since its 4 wheel drive. I have had 5 cars covered with American Collectors ins for years now, no claims. So cheap I might buy more cars. Now Arizona gives me tags for 5 years for $58. Man I love this old tin.
     
  14. Royalscadillacs
    Joined: Nov 24, 2011
    Posts: 68

    Royalscadillacs
    Member

    I insured my 59 Buick through my State Farm agent and it was simple and cheap, my agent came by and snapped a few pics and that was about it
     
  15. 32-cabriolet
    Joined: Mar 26, 2010
    Posts: 131

    32-cabriolet
    Member
    from Gilbert Az

    check out Condon & Skelly, I have had them for years with no issues & what I think is a good rate
     
  16. When JC Taylor asked if I had the original motor in my Deuce Roadster and I told them it was a Hemi, the price quote went insane.
    Allstate added it on with my other cars for a reasonable premium. I forget the numbers, but a substantial difference. Allststate now has my business.
     
  17. chrisntx
    Joined: Jan 20, 2006
    Posts: 1,799

    chrisntx
    Member
    from Texas .

    There! Fixed it for you
     
  18. Bob K
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 5,772

    Bob K
    Member Emeritus
    from Antigo Wi.


    THE MOST IMPROTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS WHAT KIND OF COVERAGE THE COMPANY PROVIDES

    STATED VALUE:
    That means the company is allowed to depreciate the value of the vehicle at the time of the claim from the amount that is stated on the policy. So if your vehicle is totaled or stolen and not recovered the company will depreciate your claim downward from the STATED VALUE shown on the policy.
    AGREE VALUE:
    That means the the company WILL NOT depreciate the value of the vehicle at the time of the claim from the amount that is AGREED on the policy. So, if your vehicle is totaled or stolen and not recovered the amount that will be paid is the AGREED VALUE stated on the policy.

    I am not familiar with states other than Wisconsin but to my knowledge the ONLY companies that write an AGREED VALUE policy are the specialty companies, meaning that main line insurance companies such as State Farm, American Family, Allstate. and such only write Stated value policies. I know for a fact that Allstate in Wisconsin DOES NOT WRITE AGREED VALUE


    I have no axe to grind here but you had better check to see what kind of coverage you have with them. I represent them and they DO NOT WRITE AGREED VALUE. at least here, maybe in Florida they do, but I cannot write insurance in Florida so I don't know for sure. I will be willing to bet that you have STATED VALUE.


    B[​IMG]B
     
  19. jcapps
    Joined: Dec 30, 2008
    Posts: 473

    jcapps
    Member
    from SoCal

    Spoke with Groucho today and he is saving $300 a year with two cars
     
  20. I have only one car at Grundy's. No problems....................Yet.
     
  21. We have a State Farm office pushing collector car insurance locally. When I asked about Stated Value vrs Agreed Value got the run around. They don't offer Agreed Value no mater what they tell you. Been using Grundy for my two. No claims so far.
     
  22. Cruiser
    Joined: May 29, 2006
    Posts: 2,241

    Cruiser
    Member

    You might check into AAA they have an old car policy now. Automobile Club of Southern California.

    CRUISER :cool:
     
  23. My 49 suburban is with hagarty and my 93 chevy truck will be with jc taylor next month because they will consider it a classic
     
  24. Mr. Edsel
    Joined: Dec 11, 2011
    Posts: 14

    Mr. Edsel
    Member

    Try American Collectors Insurance in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. I've had excellent service with them. They're not only reasonable but they're available when you need to speak with someone.
     
  25. Blackmaria60
    Joined: Apr 30, 2008
    Posts: 532

    Blackmaria60
    Member

    I go with American Collector Insurance. It's through USAA and they are awesome.

    Had Hagerty since 1996, then let it drop when the car wasn't driven. When I tried to renew - they wouldn't let me bc my "new" driver ('01 Mazda pu owned by Dad) had been in a few accidents when he owned it and I lived out of State. He was elderly.
    They argued that they didn't know if I was driving when they happened!!! They

    gave me coverage but I had had enough. That was assinine!
     
  26. I recieved my policy renewal from Grundy in the mail last night; only one vehicle (36 ford pickup) on my policy. I have had this policy with Grundy for only a year now. Philadelphia Insurance Company now underwrites for Grundy so the check goes to Philadelphia IC. The only change to my policy was an increase of the agreed value (4% increase over last year) and an additional $13 dollars added to the premium in accordance with the policy terms. No other changes to the policy at all for me.
     
  27. ionahead
    Joined: Dec 8, 2011
    Posts: 5

    ionahead
    Member
    from Ca

    Try The Hartford; I’ve had home, car, and antique auto insurance with them for over a decade now and they’ve kept my rates low, given me discounts and handled claims pretty well.
     
  28. bigdav160
    Joined: May 5, 2007
    Posts: 153

    bigdav160
    Member

    Insurance for my classics is always a quandary. I need an "agreed value" policy but I'm not likely to drive in a parade or special event. I'd like to drive my cars anytime but don't want to risk a $60k classic car to a "stated value" policy.

    Like from that Hartford link above:

    Sorry but that ain't good enough for me.
     
  29. fordcragar
    Joined: Dec 28, 2005
    Posts: 3,198

    fordcragar
    Member
    from Yakima WA.

    I called Grundy about three weeks ago and was told they wanted three or four cars; which some can be daily drivers. I'm really happy with the quote they gave me for all of my cars.
     
  30. carcrazyjohn
    Joined: Apr 16, 2008
    Posts: 4,841

    carcrazyjohn
    Member
    from trevose pa

    Got mine at state farm with my regular car insurance,
     

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