A little more info gang- I'm a 60's child and live in the heart of it all. Fell in love with my grandparents 340hp, 1964, 409 Impala SS. I still have it. I've always loved cars. For my 21st Birthday I bought myself a used 1966, 427-425hp Corvette. These cars were affordable back then. 30 years later and I still have it too. Currently replicating (buidling) my childhood dream car. It was a hot rod in my hometown (1931 Plymouth PA Coupe). Mine is a 1930 U Plymouth Coupe, it's the same body as 31/32 PA with the oval back window. Here are a few chassis pics. This is the actual frame from my childhood dream car. I've stayed in touch with the owner of that car for almost 40 years. He took the car to a pro builder and had them build him a new car from ground up. The only thing he kept was the 31 PA body. Guess what???? I bought the rest of the car except for the body. This is a real deal original frame with hand made ladder bars, quad coil overs, 57-64 Olds rear end. It was originally built in the early to mid 70's by a local altered racer.
Marknkimberly- I really like your car. It does take awhile to bring them around. Looks like you have plenty of cool parts too. I almost poked a couple of quarter windows in my Plymouth. Most people have never seen an old Mopar and that would have really messed with their minds. lol
Your friends will all be jealous of her when you get her all complete and in driveable condition. My friends thought the same thing when I brought home my 1932 Reo coupe. It was a diaster, and didn't look like much. But turned out nicely after completing the restoration. m.ralph
Oh, i should also mention i acutally have anouther 4 dr cowl and front doors, i picked up to get the sunvisor and dash outa, and i'm really tempted if i can find a back 1/2 of a coupe to make a shortened coupe, mabey even a comp couple kinda thing
Love your concept...maybe an altered style. If I ever get done with this coupe, or let me say if I can finish it and have any money left I would like to build a 2 engine 31-32 PA sedan.
You can buy brand new electronic versions but their between $5000-$6000. It all adds up quick but to do this much work and not really have what you want would really suck....so I'm saving my coins everyday to buy the Hilborn. Even my wife agrees you only go around one time! Dave
I hear ya Dave, Im leaning toward hiding some electronic injectors in the manifold, and running the hilborn for looks...Mark
nice mopars all of you that posted. i have a 31 chrysler with a blown hemi and eight stromburgs. it freaks people out because they dont know what it is. i kept eveything mopar with a small block scattershield and a real mopar dana 60. mopar or no car
i will see if my son can post some i dont know how to post pics here im not all that computer literate. i dont even own one. i use one at work. i have gone all my life without one just dont see the need to go get one yet. besides it would take away cash from my other projects.
While this may look like just a show car, it has won a good guys shoot out and qualified at bakersfield. We intend to race this car at drag fest this year. Our mopars are cool and unique, its fun to have something different.
i see some on here are into model designations my car is a 1931-1932 chrysler cm-6 coupe. chrysler built these over a 18 moth period. remember this was the height of the depression. they did make a few changes along the way separating them into what would amount to early and late model cars. i have the early version even though it is titled as a 32. the later 31-32 version had suicide doors and a double swing out windshield. these early mopars can get confusing at times. i believe they made about 35 different models during this time period. you had 6 cld; 8 cld ;2 door; 4 door; coupes; sedans; roadsters; limos and more. i think they are very much overlooked but that is slowly changing.
now this is what Im talking about! Awesome car Racer X!!! I love it! Im doing a similar theme to mine, great job!
Great project I've been watching. I have a late, (according to the serial numbers on the frame rail) production 1930 Plymouth model 30-U rumble seat coupe as well. There are few difference btw. your body and mine: 1) yours has a flip out windshield, mine(missing) was fixed and rolls up like on Chevys of that time. 2) Your top looks solidly attached to the body like on a PA. On mine the top is tack welded at a few spots and a piece of trim hides the up to a 1/4" gap. 3) The top rear corner on your doors are rounded off. Mine are square. 4) Top of your door is smooth vs. mine having a lip on it. 5) Your rain gutters are part of the top. mine (missing)where nailed to a piece of wooden tack strip. 6) Your top has a wider vertical stamped molding and increasing towards the bottom, rearward from the door. Furthermore, there are also differences in the patterns stamped into the firewall. The DeSoto was an upscale model of the Plymouth and used the Plymouth body, but never used the oval window, however, Plymouth used rectangular windows during the 14-month production run of the Model 30-U. On June 8th 1931 the last Model 30-U rolled off the assembly line. According to "The Plymouth and DeSoto Story" by Don Buttler, " The 30-U had been on the market only 7 weeks when it quietly assumed 1931 status on July 1, 1930." The 30-U was announced to the public on May 10, 1930. According to the book, States used there own ways in how to title vehicles. Another fact was that "the Model 30-U was on the market only 2 1/2 months when its maker sent out word tat the breaking point for advancing the model year designation had come. In its 14-month production run, 75,510 units were built. About 55% were built before the year-switch point." In addition, I have an almost complete numbers matching 1930 Plymouth Model 30-U convertible project. 1930 was the first year for convertible. What's different on the convertible body vs. the coupe body is that Plymouth trimmed the windshield posts, changed to a flip out style windshield and chopped the door header and half of the rear door frame. WANTED: 28-31 Plymouth/DeSoto deck lid, cowl, title; Plymouth, DeSoto, Chevrolet windshield frame with lifting mechanism; Ford cabriolet, Chevrolet convertible, Plymouth/DeSoto convertible top irons complete or parts. Any other small hardware and body parts like the front cover for the transmission (seen in picture). 1930U can you take detailed photos of the interior part of the roof attaching to the body. Haven't been able to find detailed pics. Much appreciated, Johann
The windshield on the 28-29 ply/Des and a 30 DeS late K model sedans I had years ago, were a crank "up". Your cabriolet is "swing out". I'm just wondering if you know what you have pictured there. The decklids were different from rumble seat and non rumble on the many Mopars I had. The non-rumble went further up to the back of the roof. There was a very slight change to rounded corners on rumble lids around 31. When the rounded corner rumble lid came out, the factory simply welded in a rounded filler piece at each upper corner of the body. I mention that, in case you find either one, and to let you know it can be modded. There is a hamber who runs a So Cal shop that did a 32 Ply PB conv coupe and had some good pics of the roof bows and frame with no cloth on yet. I am not sure if I saved those pics. His name is Metaltwister on here. 32 PB will be different, but maybe get some ideas, in case you need to make some. 31 PA and 32 PA would have the correct top, I would think.
i like all the detailed info coming out here. while i was out at the march meet the guy pitted next to me had a essex three window and his doors and mine were exactly the same but our bodies were different. the chry door and essex door each have a raised edge below the window that ran the entire door. it looks out of place when on the chry. the essex it looks just right as the body has that line also. can it be that at the height of the depression car makers were trying to cut corners getting parts to fit many different bodies and makes and then keeping the models around longer than one year. i guess my piont here is if you cant find the parts you need for your mopar dont over look other makes from the era.
Gang- I'm loving all the info. No worry about high jacking. Walter Chrysler was a hell of a guy. These old mopars are incredible cars. I will post some of my raw body pics. I also had a unreal antique 32 PA Rumble Coupe. I bought it so I could make body panel patterns for my 1930u. I have tons of up close and personal pics of it too.
I never thought about that before, but looking at my 30 i agree, they must be different, my decklid actually goes in underneath the roof meaning that it couldnt have been hinged opposite