Man what a mess! I removed the buggered up scattershield and have what I was told was the original bellhousing but the starter and clutch fork don't seem to line up correctly. The fork and shield had blue paint that tells me they are for later model FE but the starter looks like it might be correct. The numbers on the bellhousing are4848339 with a 1m21 in a rectangle raised area with screw head looking circles on either side. Yahoo searches show 60 - 61 on the bell is it correct for my 62 406 Galaxie? Is there some extra mounting parts between the bearing at the far end of the starter shaft or should the starter bearing fit in the cup for support? THANKS!!!
from what I know of Ford casting date codes, 1 = 1961, M = December (?) 21st The cup is just a dust shield, isn't it?
Which trans do you have, the old T-10, or has someone put in a toploader? The T-10 has a narrower bolt pattern, while most toploaders have the wider pattern, but aso a second set of holes in the old pattern. The front bearing retainer is also different diameter on early trannies, make sure your retainer fits the hole in the bell properly. I have the original bell for my 406 car, but when I'm running a 4-speed I just use a toploader/scattershield/late flywheel & starter combo
That starter will fit in with the three shoulder bolts. If you have lost the starter bolts, you may use clutch preasure plate shoulder bolts. They should be close. The starter drive goes beyond the flywheel.
Gene I have what looks to be the original narrow pattern T-10 The bell fits the front bearing retainer like a glove. Squirrel Thanks that would be good date code for this car. Don I will try the mount again tomorrow on starter. The scatter shield looks like it was for later FE with small starter nose and I may have a later clutch fork that may be shorter than the early forks? THANKS AGAIN!! for the help unbutchering this car!
Remember, the older starters that engage from the rear of the flywheel have a different tooth count than the newer style.If you have a 65 or newer flywheel then that is the wrong starter for your application.
Tried the starter again the 3 mounting bolts line up but mounting flange on starter seems to small and the bearing at far end of the starter shaft has no suport could this be a y-block or 6 cylinder starter?
Judd;have you tried FORDFE.com,or FE Power Forums?A lot of knowledge over there.A 62 would have the weird starter and a T-10 narrow case,and the toploaders came as narrow case until 65 when they would have both bolt patterns.Judd,it could be a six banger starter or a y-block,they look the same,not sure of dimensions. ROY.
What you are calling a bearing is the overrunning clutch. It does not fit into the bellhousing. There is no support for the starter armature at that end. I do not recall any difference between y block and FE staters up until the tooth count change. I'm fairly sure I used the 6v starter from my 239 with the 332 I put in my 54. I don't know how much clearance there is at the pilot on the starter flange and you don't quantify how much clearance you have, so I can't comment on the "seems too small" statement. Good luck.
Roy I can't seem to get on either of those sites, I'm signed up on both. One asks me to sighn up again when I try to post and I'm waiting for the second message on the other site? LOL they probably know what a pain I am with all the questions. Farmalldan The starter i have has a C shaped ring on the bellhousing side of the mounting flange that looks like it should fit snug in the C shaped groove on the bellhousing but the starter ring is about 1/4" smaller in diameter. So the piece on the far end of the started shaft that looks like a bearing isn't and doesnt need to be supported?
If my memory serves there should be a 14ga tin that is between the flywheel and block that the smaller starter ring fits into. Small block Fords are that way and so are the big blocks. Circle track racing the 390's we would ditch the old style starter for the newer one to save a few pounds.
Thanks for help everybody!!! I have the bell hung ready for motor when machine shop is done! The Ford racing fender cover is good for 10mph top end! LOL
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