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Brookeville model a fenders don't fit no how!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ardeem, Dec 24, 2011.

  1. zgears
    Joined: Nov 29, 2003
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    Ok, I've got a valid question. In the 10+ years of selling a 29 roadster trunk panel, why has it not been updated to actually fit a original 29 roadster. there are a lot of compound curves in it and it dosen't respond well to modification. It seems it's made to be sold, not made to be used. see link.--

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=387177
     
  2. flatmotor40
    Joined: Apr 14, 2010
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    from georgia

    I have a Brookville 29 with their frame and Gaslite fenders and I didn't have any problems putting he two together no beating or banging pre fit took apart painted and put it right back together some 15 years ago so go to work and great body products Brookville
     
  3. trimph1
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    uummmm...without the die the press is nothing....but without the press the die is nothing...

    They are interdependent..one to the other.
     
  4. HOTRODPRIMER
    Joined: Jan 3, 2003
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    Bottom line is,,if you don't like the parts that are being offered by the folks that are reproducing fenders,frames or body's,then go out and find the original parts and see just how much work you will have to do to make them come together and fit like you want.

    I for one appreciate have the choice of beating and patching the original old rough fender or making slight modifications to a aftermarket fender for the fit I'm hoping to achieve. HRP
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2011
  5. the metalsurgeon
    Joined: Apr 19, 2009
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    my point is its all about the dies,you can use any brand of press,it irrelevant as long as it has enough capacity.

    my weekly metal work blog www.themetalsurgeon.com
     
  6. fef100
    Joined: Mar 24, 2007
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    fef100

    Exactly. The repops for my off topic truck are about 3/16" short in height where they meet the door-cowl. I would need to cut and add metal the length of the fender to get any kind of decent fit. I think I will cut them up and patch the originals.
     
  7. 54 Chevy
    Joined: Sep 4, 2010
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    If you don't like the fenders then invest the thousands of dollars and try to build then your self! I sold Gaslight and Brookville products for 5 years and when on the rare occasion that there was a problem both companies were great to work with. One thing to remember when having problems with a repop item if you are nice when you call and don't start yelling or saying that this item is junk then you will get a lot more help. I have a 47 Ford coupe and have purchased OEM parts from other cars and tried to use them and they have to be modified to fit. So expecting a frame, body, and fenders from all different companies to fit exactly is like buying a lottery ticket and expecting it to be a winning every time. It would be nice but it is not going to happen.
     
  8. Zookeeper
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    I haven't sifted through all the posts, but here's my take-away on the OP's "problem". If you expect any part of a hot rod to jump out of the box and bolt itself on, perfectly aligned like a brand-new Toyota, you live in a fantasy world. For a comparison, please seek out the thread I read yesterday about the guy in Italy that bought a horrid '32 3-window body from HAMB'er that was so bad the last owner used it for yard art. You read that article and then tell me how you can call yourself a builder because your brand-new, rust-free repro fenders don't ft perfectly to your brand-new, rust-free ch***is. Puhh-leeze...
     
  9. da34guy
    Joined: Jun 13, 2006
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    Have ya noticed thet the OP hasn't responded anymore.
    Either he's out hammerin on the fenders, or left us and cryin on another site
    If he left---Goodbye :rolleyes:
     
  10. da34guy
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    Or decided to run it as a Hi-Boy:D
     
  11. dirty old man
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    Just read the entire thread, and I gotta comment.
    I am almost finished with a '31 Hiboy on '32 frame The body and frame with suspension came as a rolling ch***is/body from Brookeville. They ***embled it before the original purchaser took delivery.
    After he did some more work he got side tracked and I eventually bought it. I have progressed onward towards street-ready.
    I have absolutely no complaint about the ***embly work they did nor with body panel fits. My only compaint is that damn lacquer based red oxide primer sprayed on top of un-degeased or etched metal. You gotta get that off inside and out and then go from there.
    I do know that I for one woulld, now that I've experienced it, be willing to pay more for sheet metal that was cleaned and degreased, then etched before they then sprayed on a good coat of DP90 or equivalent.
    All my numerous calls to them were handled with politeness and good advice and info.
    Dave
     
  12. Don's Hot Rods
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    from florida

    You are right, D.O.M, about that red oxide primer, it is the worst, more like mud than primer. It does clean off somewhat easy with laquer thinner and a scotchbrite pad, but getting to the insides of doors and other tight places is a challange. I understand why they do it, to keep the metal from getting too rusty until you get around to prepping and painting it, but it does NOT seal out all the rust. When we cleaned the doors down to bare metal they were starting to rust underneath. I pity the person who thinks they can simply scuff and paint Brookville parts.

    We ordered the RPU body sans primer, just bare steel, and the doors came primed anyway, they say they are done in a separate operation and are inventoried preprimed. That is the only negative thing I can say about Brookville parts, and like I said, it does scrub off with a little elbow grease.

    Don
     
  13. fab32
    Joined: May 14, 2002
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    Your initial post contains the answer to your problem. You stated "Brookville/Gas Light". The fender you got are not production Brookville but products of Gaslight. To my knowledge Brookville does not make Model A fenders. They resell Gaslight. The new '32 fenders they offer now are their own products however. The earlier '32 fenders sold by Brookville did require a bit of m***aging to be useful but at the time they were the only game in town and NOT a Brookville product.

    Frank
     
  14. miraclepieco
    Joined: Mar 17, 2011
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    Speaking of reproduction steel Model A fenders, I recently visited Don Babb's shop in Oregon and got to see dozens of virgin repro 30-31 fenders stacked in the rafters. Since he doesn't make them anymore, he lets few of them go and always gets top dollar.
     

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