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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by T-Faust, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. T-Faust
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    I was on my bi-weekly boneyard tour the other day ad came a cross this. It was sitting in a '47 Dodge coupe. I think it is a Ford, but I am not a FOrd guy.
     

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  2. slddnmatt
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    FE block it looks like
     
  3. bcr466
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    It is a 429-460 Ford called the 385 series.

    Get the casting # from the heads and intake. Intake # should be right under that lens. Head #s are just below lower valve cover rail.
     
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  4. caseyscustoms
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    i recognize it, its a rebuilder.
     
  5. slddnmatt
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    Your right I see the timing cover. Surfing the hamb on a phone is challenging sometimes!
     
  6. T-Faust
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    Mention of a "385", which I had never heard of, sent me on a web search. Seems that a 429-460 is ID'd by seven valve cover bolts (don't know about earlier engines) after that it is measuring the stroke, or taking the crankshaft number, to see if it is a 429, or 460.

    Doesn't seem like an exciting find. Prolly from an old T-bird.
     
  7. Don's Hot Rods
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    Love the way they cut the firewall. They were going to get that puppy in there one way or another. :eek::D

    Don
     
  8. bcr466
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    Depends on the numbers as to exiteing or not. They are popular even in the smog motor form.
     
  9. T-Faust
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    It is kind of sad, or elase I would havetaken the whole car. It sits in rather rare 2/3 p***enger Dodge coupe (no rear seat). But the whole car is so far gone that it would be a true labor of love, not just affection.
     
  10. T-Faust
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    Too much time on my hands this morning, so I have been looking around the 'Net. ***uming it is a 429, the spread bore manifold suggests it is not out of T-Bird. The 429CJ had a spread bore but the manifold pictured has reliefs cast into the manifold under the carb. This one has a flat base.
     
  11. T-Faust
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    My memory is good, but it is short. There could be reliefs on the manifold I posted. That, and the spread bore, looks like a '70-'71 CJ, or a '70-71 Police interceptor. Next time I am that way, I'll have to take the numbers off the manifold.
     
  12. slddnmatt
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    What is.the casting numbers on the heads? DOVE heads are 429, i forget what the other good ones are I think DOOE?
     
  13. T-Faust
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    Sorry, I didn't get that involved. I was there looking for parts for my Mopars and only looked at this car because it was an old Mopar. Didn't recognize the engine, so I snapped a picture.

    I went to the 429Megasite, to look for numbers. The intakes pictured look like this one. I guess D0OE-9425-D is the number I'm looking for. Came across the prices for a CJ engine, I think it is worth my while to go back for another look.

    http://mustangtek.com/Intake/D0OE-9425-D_000.html
     
  14. slddnmatt
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    If you got real lucky it could be a SCJ but the intake doesn't look right. Easiest way to identify them is the block is a 4 bolt main
     
  15. T-Faust
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    You could be right. I've been comparing pictures and comments on a police interceptor manifold that is on eBay. The commenter, mentions the PI used a Motorcraft spread bore and that the spacing between the two rear bores is different. The CJ having a smaller web between the bores. I think the one I pictured is the PI manifold.

    I have reason to be down that way in the next week or so, I will have a look at the numbers on the manifold, I doubt that anyone swapped it.

    As far as looking at the mains, you can see how it sits. I would need real encouragement to try and drop the pan. The place is cheap, if the manifold numbers were right, I would just buy the motor and ****** and take my chances.

    Looking around eBay there were some CJ exhaust manifolds and heads. The exhaust manifold has a longer "drop" than I can see in the picture I took. The heads have a pad below the valve cover with a DOOE number cast on it. I can't even see a pad in the picture I took.

    Too bad, I haven't won the lottery this year either.
     
  16. squirrel
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    How much water has been sitting in that engine, for how long?

    Odds are it's out of a Lincoln....
     
  17. T-Faust
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    Don't know much about it, it has been in the yard with the hood off for about 2 months.

    Re: Lincoln. No, I found a site which pictures all Ford intakes. The T-bird is a square bore manifold. Only the CJ and Police Interceptor are spread bore.
     
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  19. T-Faust
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    That is a 460, which this engine might be.

    I am gambling that it is a 429, because of the car it is sittng in. It has been sub framed and a lot of other work done. So, the guy might have been choosy about the egine. It is also an old enough project that more 429's might have been around.

    And what is my gamble? I have to ride 10 minutes and read some numbers.
     
  20. 56don
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    The SCJ or Super Cobra Jet had an intake carb pattern that mounted the regular square bore Holley pattern. The spreadbore is either a CJ or plain jane 429-460 intake.
     
  21. squirrel
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    Could be, but the picture screams "cheap *******" to me....
     
  22. bcr466
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    It would be mine if it was not so far away.
     
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  23. XL-FE
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    Looks like this is the intake manifold:
    http://mustangtek.com/Intake/D1AE-9425-BA.html
    The reliefs are coveredby the carb gasket, so...
    Ford used Rochester Quadrajets on P.I. an C.J. on spread bore intakes.
    At least get the heads and intake.

    Talk about being picky about the engine: red engine block, white exhaust manifolds, chrome valvecovers...:rolleyes:
     
  24. DonMan
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    Looks like a good boat anchor to me. :D
     
  25. 26 roadster
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    I have 3 complete 460's under a tarp and one race prepped block, it ain't like there rare.
     
  26. bcr466
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    Not now, but they will be.
     
  27. ADVANCE1
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    It has chrome valvecovers so it must be fast
     
  28. cowboyinachair
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    it a 77 to 79 lincoln spread bore 460 intake i have one here in a ford pickup nothing to jump on the give away is the ems port for the egr on the right side
     
  29. cowboyinachair
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    from colorado

    the head casting number will start D3
     
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  30. squirrel
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    E3 in 77? how about D3?
     

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