I've read a Ton here on the t5, namely Flat Ernie, and while I can say i've learned ALOT, i still need some help. I am only in the planning stages of my Model A Tudor project, Powered by a Cad 365, hopefully a fun yet economical T5 and on 32 rails. Flat Ernie... In your T5 tech thread you say that the Astro Van has better gearing. Is this a big deal? What I want is a fun first gear, the best possible highway mileage, and practical shifter location. In short, I want it ALL. My question is, in this particular application, which ge****t and which trans is best for me? Suggestions please?
With 365 cubes up front, my choice would be a T 500. The Mustang guys are shreading second gear in a light car with 302 cubes. Use a T5 and its just a matter of time.
Thanks for the input Ole Don. I still would like to get my questions answered if theres anyone out there that can provide feedback on my actual questions. My question is... here we go... in a model a Tudor with a stock 365 caddy, and about a 30inch tall rear tire, what T5 as far as gearing, should I be looking for? I would like first gear to get me more than 10 feet and, of course I want best possible mpg. I understand I can change tail shafts to achieve desireable shifter location. But I want to know which T5 will work best with my tall tire and 365 engine. Taken straight from Flat Ernie's "TECH: Ultimate T-5 Article" S10 two options 1<SUP>st</SUP> 4.03 2<SUP>nd</SUP> 2.37 3<SUP>rd</SUP> 1.49 4<SUP>th</SUP> 1.00 5<SUP>th</SUP> 0.86 1<SUP>st</SUP> 3.76 2<SUP>nd</SUP> 2.18 3<SUP>rd</SUP> 1.41 4<SUP>th</SUP> 1.00 5<SUP>th</SUP> 0.72 Astrovan 1<SUP>st</SUP> 3.50 2<SUP>nd</SUP> 2.14 3<SUP>rd</SUP> 1.39 4<SUP>th</SUP> 1.00 5<SUP>th</SUP> 0.78 V8 1<SUP>st</SUP> 2.95 2<SUP>nd</SUP> 1.94 3<SUP>rd</SUP> 1.34 4<SUP>th</SUP> 1.00 5<SUP>th</SUP> 0.73 I am asking this question because I don't fully understand the effects of the different ratios and of the tall tire, i just know that they've all gotta jive. Is there a tech thread that would explain all the factors involved in selecting proper gear ratios for the trans as well as the third member? I'd love to learn.
<P>With a "torquey" motor like the Cad and a fairly light car, you don't need a lot of 1st gear reduction to get the car moving. I'd choose the 2.95 ratio with the Ford 3.35 as a second choice. I like rear axle ratios of 3.5-3.73 because I like some dig. With the 0.73 overdrive, and a 3.73 axle, your final ratio will be 2.72. I haven't checked any speeds with your tire size, but there are a number of calculators to do that for you. My friend has a 34 sedan with 351/AOD and a 3.73 axle. It has great off the line acceleration and cruises around 2100-2200 rpm and gets 22-23 mpg.</P> <P>I agree with the T-5 being a poor choice for the Cad. They are rated from 265 to about 310 ft-lbs of torque, depending on particular model. I'd think a decent Cad could get close to 1 ft-lb per cubic inch, so figure 350-375 ft-lbs available. Expect to eat a T-5 about every 10th full throttle launch<IMG cl***=inlineimg border=0 alt=0 src="http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" smilieid="1">.</P> <P>Good luck,</P> <P>Farmalldan</P>
Thanks a heap for your input farmalldan. You said, "My friend has a 34 sedan with 351/AOD and a 3.73 axle. It has great off the line acceleration and cruises around 2100-2200 rpm and gets 22-23 mpg." If it works for him why not me? **Edit** I'm a dumb***. I read past AOD. forgive me!!! These T5's that were in camaro's had around 300 ft-lbs. I'd still like to hear some more feedback. Anybody who's successfully running a small block with a T5 got anything to say?
<TABLE cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff>Maybe I am asking too much from a T5. 1956 Cadillac 365 specs: Maximum Brake Horsepower: 285 @ 4600 RPM </TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff>Maximum Torque Lbs.Ft. @ RPM: 400 @ 2800 RPM </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
OK, I'll answer the original question. The best ratios for your combination are the V8 S10 ratio's you listed. Now me talkin again, - good luck finding one. They were rare when new. I did the same thing you are doing now but in a full sized 55 sedan with a Y block. I called two Mustang aftermarket parts supliers to ask the question. They both said the same thing, dont use a T5 with a torquey motor. I bought a T3550. They are no longer available new. A new T500 will cost about two grand now. You may find a used or quality rebuilt 3550 on the internet. Use the corect lube they are wonderful and trouble free.
I have the phone number for a guy that has an '88 camero T5. can I use a different bell housing to adjust for the 17/18 degree "tilt" and an S10 tail shaft to bring the shifter forward?
Thanks again Ole Don! V8 S10??? There was an S10 that had a V8 in it?? **** this T5 business is confusing. I was under the impression the V8 was only camaro's and the like.