Question on "Flat" or "Satin" black paint???

I am having another car painted within the next week or two. It is a 69' Camaro that I want painted flat or satin black with some long thin flames off the nose. Now my concerns are that DP90 or flat black will oxidize out in the Arizona sun in no time. My painter has not done this style paint in the past except on a bike recently so we do not know what will happen over time. Would you guy be so kind as to share your experience with me on what works best to get the look that I am after and some longevity out of the paint job. Is there a secret or magic combination of paints? If I can not figure it out then I am going to be forced to pick a color and go gloss. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Marc

 

Neither but if you have too do it because they are gonna kill your family satin black.

 

you dont buy flat black is the trick,you buy shiny paint and have them put 1/8 flatner in it.If it oxidises you can shine it up and it will flat off again itself...........Marq

 

You don't paint a '69 Camaro flat anything.... now go away...

 

hahahahaha,,...thats what i was thinking...

 

I've seen it done and it does'nt look good. Confused is more like it.

 

What if you also paint the wheels red?

 

I am not sure about a flat black 69 camaro But to each his own. I use PPG products and you can use regular base coat black then use the Flex n Flat clear. The flex n flat can be mixed with regular clears ppg 2021 and 2042 to the desired flatness. Flex n Flat by itself is 0-5% shiny. I have used 10 oz of flex n flat with 1/2 oz of the 2042 and had a 20% shine (a very satin look). Good luck and be sure and take it to an all Chevy show if you paint it flat black. Some of those guys will **** their pants.

 

flat black? that car ain't square, try some kinda paint that is a little curvy so it will fit around all the roundings on the car

its not like its an 740 series volvo no boxy car there

 

pompamullet

 

paint it gloss, color sand it and just don't polish it...

Oh, and you forgot Semi-Gloss, that's to gloss what flat is to satin... and then there's semi-semigloss, and semi-flat, and.....

 

i dunno, i hate flames on muscle cars but theres a 69 camaro on the cover of some hotrod/car craft mag out now in satin black with some sort of rally stripe and it looks not to shaby on five spokes

do a seach for "blue primer" or something, this topic has ben talked to death in the last month or so

 

I would go for Eggshell, but if you have kids you might want semi-gloss. The Crayon stains wipe off better.

 

There's a guy here thats been fixing up a 67 chevelle, I thought thats cool he appears to be doing the work himself, today I seen the car again he painted flat black with red pinstripes. I hate him now.

 

Personally, I would gloss it. But...
Use a urethane black (for durability) & mix the needed amount of flatener to get the desired look. Keep in mind the flatter you make it the less it will hold up. I just painted the trim peices on a Fiero semi-flat black & it took about 30% flatener to get there.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

If you can't take the heat, get out of the nuclear reactor.

 

take a look at dupont hot hues selection it has a color called hot rod black.Its a satin black looks good and is a paint not primer.I used it on the 32 sedan at the suggestion from another hamb member

 

go gloss, screw that primer ****.

 

actually,,,my 68 camaro was primmered all through High school,,first red oxide,,then smurf blue,,,BUT it was only cuz i couldnt afford a paint job!!!!

 

yes i agree. take a little extra time and block sand the ***** and paint it porshe red. *****es love that.

 

Maybe this is a bad idea, but if you're going to paint it, either flat or otherwise, consider spraying the whole thing out in DP-90 when the bodywork is done and take a good hard look at it. If you like the flat black look, then spray your topcoat on that. I got the feeling that the flat black is going to look wrong on that car. Shiney black would be nice, though, and look just as tough.

 

Damn, I think I hit a nerve there. I am a friggin' tattoo artist and somewhat odd to start with so going against the grain is a way of life for me. I was asking what to use to get that look more than opinions on what to name my next child. To those that provided the helpful information I say thank you sincerely. To those that feel the need to criticize and control everything around them when they probably do not have a great grip on their own life... I hope that you can someday work through those issues and be a better person for it. You will need to try a whole lot harder to get through my thick skin.

Marc

 

aMEN

 

your reply was *****'n..

 

Flat black is a real pain to maintain. Go satin.


...though I do think that a shiny black would be better...

 

Thanks for the support guys.

I am definitely leaning more towards the satin then the flat. I just like to drive my cars hard and a chip or ding in the satin black will add character where as it looks like **** in gloss paint.

Marc

 

So, how does one go about getting a KILLER satin?

 

Read my previous post.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Easy on the Giggle Cream!

 

Marc,
You can touch up or blend-in gloss paint, as long as it's not candy. But paint it the color you want. If you're painting it semi-flat just so chips will "add character", I would gloss it. Eaiser to keep clean & maintian, & it will last longer if it's clear-coated & glossy. Plus, you can clear over the flames, sand & buff it, & everything will be nice & smooth with no edges.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing.

 

I like this guy already.
Good luck... Even if you paint it pink with black tiger stripes!

 

AP has it right - use a black base coat and the Flex-N-Flat clear.