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1953 chevy 150 question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by shifflett, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. shifflett
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    I bought some 54 bel air gravel shields to go onto my 53 150 i have read they were interchangeable turns out they are a little shorter so my question is am i stuck with the rubber gravel shields the car came with or do i need to look for 53 model gravel shields? Are bel air and 210 gravel sheilds the same any help would be appreciated
     
  2. squirrel
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    THe parts book helps, but you have to figure out what it's talking about. group 12.116D is the gravel shield

    1000 series is 210-belair
    1200 series is 150

    http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/1929_57chevyparts/57cmpc0836.htm

    looks like the 53-54 are the same, and the 150 uses rubber, while the 210-belair use metal. And they're only on the 2 doors, right?
     
  3. shifflett
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    Yea both cars were two doors if thats what your asking my only guess is the bel airs shields are short because of the extra trim do you know of any one that sales repops im still hoping that 210s where the same
     
  4. 49ratfink
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    looks to me like 53 and 54 are the same. they may be shorter than your rubber shields, but the metal ones are the same for both years.

    what kind of shape are your runner ones in? those are hard to find in any decent condition.
     
  5. squirrel
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    that's what the parts book says
     
  6. shifflett
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    They are in pretty poor shape dry rotted and warped the clips are different the top two clips are clise to the same but the next two down are off by about an inch and the bottom hole on the metal ones is about two inches to high i can post a picture if that would help you guys
     
  7. shifflett
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    see what yall think
     

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  8. Johnny Gee
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    From what I see in the pics is the studs/fasteners are located differantly between the two parts. GM may have done this on purpose so as not to have the parts cross over between the Models. Since it seems that they are the same shape, it's possible to drill new hole in 1/4s for the SS ones.
     
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  9. shifflett
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    That stainless on doesnt go down far enough on the fender to catch that last hole other wise i have a buddy that could reweld the tabs where i need them but i looked at a few pics of 210 abd they looked a little different but evryone say the are the same so i guess im out of luck
     
  10. shifflett
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    Im sorry i misread that post yea i would have to fill that last hole then move the tabs on the gravel shield or redrill holes on fender
     
  11. Johnny Gee
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    Sorry I don't have actual facts. That's just my guess. Maybe somebody that really knows will chime in.
     
  12. shifflett
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    I appreciate your input
     
  13. jonzcustomshop
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    looks like it is short by the wheelwell? do you have a set of 4 door shields?
    from some looking at google images it looks like the 4 door ones would be shorter, and end at the edge of the door?
     
  14. atomickustom
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    I believe jonzcustomshop is right: those look like 4-door gravel shields to me. On the 4-door models there is another little piece that makes up the difference. You just need to find a set from a 2-door.

    It is POSSSIBLE the 210 and BelAir are different lengths, but that would be at the top not the bottom.
     
  15. shifflett
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    The car it came off was a two door its eric54chevy from on here he has a build theard on the car yall can look at it but i think they are original two door
     
  16. atomickustom
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    Well then maybe the holes are not lining up properly and the gravel shields are just sitting too high on your rear fenders? The top of the gravel shields does not go all the way up to the side stainless - on the 210 there is a little teardrop piece that mounts at the top of the gravel shield. Look really close at any side shot of any stock 210 and you'll see what I mean.
    (Which, by the way, I just realized means the 210 and BelAir gravel shields ARE the same length - the teardrop piece on the 210 fits the same spot as the lower trim on the BelAir.)
     
  17. SoCalChevy54
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    Those gravel guards never went all the way down to the bottom, that hole on the very bottom is not for the gravel guard clip it's factory drain hole.
     
  18. shifflett
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    The rubber ones went in that last hole the grain hole is a bigger oval shaped hole
     
  19. atomickustom
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    Oh for the love of God! It is NOT a drain hole, and the damn piece IS supposed to extend pretty much all the way to the wheel well opening. It took me about 5 seconds to find this photo by going to Google and typing in "1953 Chevy 210"
    Notice that the trim piece comes very close to meeting the fender opening and fender skirt at the rear. There should not be a few inches of gap like your photo shows.
    Notice there is a teardrop piece at the top, spacing the gravel shield down a few inches from the side trim.
    Either you have a 4-door piece or you are mounting yours too high on the rear fender because you don't have that teardrop. Period.
     

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  20. shifflett
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    The rubber ones have the tear drop shape molded in unlike the 210s extra piece i have five mounting holes on the car and five on the gravel shields and only two match up theres no way im trying to mount them high and they are not from a 4 door notice the bottom is not cut at an angle like foor doors
     
  21. It would not be out of the realm of possibilities that Chevy changed up the trim a bit in '54 and in the process moved the mounting holes a little. You can either drill it for your new pieces or try and find a '53 set and see if they'll fit up.
     
  22. fastcar1953
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    4 doors are way different they come in 2 pieces. his rubber ones have the spear at top molded in. just move it down and find the spears for the top .
     
  23. fastcar1953
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    pics where mine were. you will have to drill holes where the spears go
     
  24. shifflett
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    Only way to move down is to redrill holes which might be what gets done
     
  25. fastcar1953
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    better pics and yes on new holes
     
  26. shifflett
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    Thanks for the pics
     
  27. fastcar1953
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    welcome, notice where holes are compared to yours. more in album
     
  28. shifflett
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    Yea tops are about the same except i dont have a hole for the extra spear trim everything else is off
     
  29. Johnny Gee
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    Interesting, looking back at post #7 and the first picture. Note the differant off sets of the studs at the left side of photo between the two. Remember what I said about maybe having to make new holes in 1/4 panel.
     

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