Hot Rods Lost then found, 34 hot rod roadster

Sweet....

 

fun thread, great story! cool car.

 

Getting ready! Still working on house. The tile didn't go as easy as planned in my bathroom, so I'm still messing with it. It was a black marble, or a slate really. I didn't realize I was suppose to seal the tile before I grouted, all the grout got stuck in the pours, luckily it was black grout. So that set me back a couple days.

I did rewire my Indian last night, hope to fire it today. Worked on my dads 34, bought a sweet full fender-ed black 1930 sedan... but that is it, all house work for me.

Next I have to clean the garage, and then I hope to start some mock up of the 34 roadster. I need to at least get the body off the floor.

I'm also building a 1930 roadster to sell. So you'll probable see more of that before you see the 34 regrettably. I am so broke from working on house I have to get right to work on something to sell. So the 30 roadster it is.

Plans for it are a channel job, although it doesn't need it, real nice body. Rear frame step, dropped axle I think, 40 ford wheels, tanu cover, possibly a cris-craft windscreen, worked flatty with a T-5 because I have a nice one all ready to go. I bought the body to help get rid of some parts, and cause I'm jonesing to build something cool. I hate house work!!!!

 

Funny how many Pm's you get when somebody brings an old thread back to the top.

The 34 three window doors sold a long time ago!!! My buddy the Angry Frenchmen got those for his three window project. Go Jared go!

 

Yeah I'm always excited to see what Mel puts together. Get on it!!

 

lol, I hate house work also and it never goes away! 30 roadster and the Indian sounds cool. let see some pics!

 

Jared... I knew I'd find you on this thread. Went looking for you, and couldn't find ya.

A little bird told me you may have some cad parts? I may be looking for a cad bell housing or an olds. Saw a nice olds on here last week, didn't think I needed with a potential set up I was going to use. Now I may need, and cat find.

I'm trying to choose the right trans for long hauling. I want to drive the wheels off this car. I'd love to hear from some early caddy guys and hear which set ups they love?

I have a cool hydraulic 34 trans that came out of this 34. I also have original zephyr gears. I have all the pieces too for this set up.

I also have a brand new T5. I do not have the bell etc. This t5 is hooked to a flatty at moment that a customer ordered built by Go Devil. Then bought a car I had and gave me the engine/trans on a trade in.

As of the other day, I dropped the oil pump and sheared a bolt in my banger 32. Some I'm thinking bout throwing the V8 I'm my 32. It has a 39 trans already.

 

As much as a T5 would be the right trans for this car, I'm not sure I want to use one. Don't ask... I have issues!

I mentioned I may use the flatty in my 32, which was slated for the 30 roadster build now that I broke the banger. A bunch of people stepped up to buy the roadster. I sold it yesterday. Made sence as I was not going to get to it till end of winter. I took on a complete restoration for some friends. That is taking up my time at moment. 30 roadster would have sat out all winter.

Don't get me wrong, that banger O' mine is an easy fix! But it might just be the moment to swap it out.

 

No pics! My crazy boy ripped all the keys off the laptop. My computer blew up last year. And my digi camera broke too! Me and technology rarely get along. I'm on my I phone. Man are these ****ons small. I may sign up for the hamb ap today. Never understood why you would need to be on it 247, but it is easier to hide my phone from my son. Hahaa.

 

The 30 roadster sat on the frame table. So now that it is gone, the 34 frame has made it to the table!!! Just need to make a few jigs.

 

Here is the Indian. Still working on it.

Now that I'm diving into the Indian circles, I'm coming up with all kinds of basket cases and parts. I need to stay focused and buy for this 34!

 

Tell me more about the flathead you're thinking of putting in your car --> bore, stroke, cam, porting, etc.. The power you have can play into the transmission you end up running. I can't tell by the thread if you're still going the flathead route - and for which car?

I will say, that if you're looking for a long hauler - and want to keep the engine revs down, then you need some sort of overdrive (or the ability to easily change rear end ratios). There are various stock-style over-drive setups from the 50's (off the trans) that could work - just a little bit of a pain due to the electric solenoids to activate them. Another approach would be for an early Columbia rear - obviously traditional and expensive (and not terribly strong if you don't beef it up).

Another option is to consider a Q.C. rear - that way you can have your 'fun gears' for around town and then your 'freeway fliers' for the long trips. At least it gives you options - and it only take about 20 minutes to change oil/gears.

I ran a 39 box for years - is fine for around town, but if you want to go 75 on the freeway . . . you'll be spinning the engine pretty high (especially if you have 3.78 or 4.11 gears).

The T5 is obviously a good 'technical choice' - as long as you can deal with the non-traditional looks.

Best of luck! Give us some more details on which engine/car combinations you're pondering.

 

I'm dealing with the same issues in gathering parts for my 33. I have everything to put a t5 behind a flathead but I just cannot commit since I feel like I'd be admitting defeat. One thing is for sure if I go that route I'm ordering one of Crazydaddyo's t5 to torque tube setups.

I know I would love the way it drives, I had one in my Merc behind a flathead. However on a car that I am searching so hard for the right parts I'm just not ready to say with certainty that I'm going that route.

I have a 39 trans in my '35 behind my 265 Chevy and a 3.54 R&P but that engine can handle the revs....hell it loves them!

CHRIS is using a Lincoln OD trans which look like nice options that you can feel good about. That might be something to keep an eye out for.

I'm also currently obsessing about homemade quickchanges. I think if I have the chance to scoop one up I might .

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Oh and probably a good thing you don't get another laptop anytime soon with your boy taking drum lessons. Get's gonna want to wail on everything in his path!! Haha!!!

Report back on what you decide. I'd be interested to hear what you end up with.

 

Great find in the '34!! Watching to keep pace with your progress!!

 

I didn't struggle with my decision to run a T5 behind my Olds. To be honest it never really occurred to me that anyone would. I knew I wanted to be able to drive the sh*t out of that rig and knew that a modern OD ****** was the path to that goal.

 

If you're going to slip something new in there the trans is a good place to do it. Something like 95% of the time no one's going to see it's there, even if you're showing the car - not many people check out underneath them. Paint the case like it was a Ford trans and it will be even less noticable. To me, there's no sense having a nice car you want to drive the wheels off, then building it in a way that makes the driving less enjoyable.

 

That Indian is sweet. You've got the neatest ****! Even your frame table is cool!

 

My issue isn't with people seeing the T5 it more or less lies with the fact that I love Early Ford transmissions like people love flatheads....or 6x2 intakes. It's really cool part of any build when they are used and THAT part would be missing ya know? However, like I said I really really liked the way my T5 ran in my old merc behind the flathead so that's really a selling feature. It doesn't have that whine like a early Ford trans but damn was it nice cruising along and keeping up. It'll all be up in the air until the time is right to make that decision. I've got one of each on the shelf so I prepared to go both ways.....wait I didn't mean to say that, I meant to say choose either one of the trans' haha!!!

Note: my '33 isn't going to be low by any means so that t5 would definitely be noticeable. I also am going to run an unsplit wishbone, torque tube and a minimally changed frame on that car so all those things will come into play when I decide. I've heard you can use a stock '33-'34 saddle and modify it to use the stock wishbone when using a t5.

 

That's what I told him yesterday. Coolest shop ever!!!! It's big but "cozy" and is filled with so much inspiration it's not funny. His 32 is my dream roadster and I'm waiting for him to want a 33 3w so we can trade.

 

Sorry to confuse the thread. I'm good at that as I have a lot of things going on. Sometimes I forget that you all don't talk to me privately. I keep in touch with a bunch of people here on the side.

Worked banger is in the 32. Originally built for my tank project. Now returning to my tank.

Flathead V8 is now going in 32. My 32 has a 39 trans, banjo rear.

I had bought zephyr gears for it and a columbia but have yet to swap in. Columbia needs rebuilding. Have no controls.

I'm toying with that maybe going in 32 or 34.

The flatty is a mild hop up, ported and relieved. External oil system, original Fenton stuff, dual 97, etc.

I also have another 59ab with all original Navarro stuff, still in beginning stages.


The caddy engine is going in 34. Trans still up in air.

It is not how about how people will judge my car make my mind up about a T5.
There is just a ton of soul to using all old ****. Those are the cars I love. Real relics.

Trust me, I may just use it! Just over thinking every detail. Im itching to get into the stance, and need to figure out my path.

 

glad to see you are getting back to working on cars. don't get too busy, i still need your help to finish mine.

 

He goes both ways!

 

I'm at the eye doctor! Hahaaa. This new hamb ap **** is cool!

 

JJ, going both ways is fine, and if every so often you wake up with a "Busted ******", thats fine too, I'm not judging. Every year our club has a "Busted ****** Toss" and we usually find one in downtown Boston near the Gl*** Slipper. This year we're filling the transmission with greens so that we can have a "Busted ****** Salad Toss".

I think that if I were to redo my car again I would probably go with the early Ford ******. I learned after driving Jarods car that with proper gearing a roadster can cruise at 80 all day with an early transmission and a flathead. It just makes things cleaner and easier to put a car together with as many original parts as possible. That being said, since I already went through all that trouble and spent the money, that overdrive sure is nice.

 

There's some good stuff in this thread! I have no idea how I missed this thread.

X2 on the soul in using all old parts.


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Jeez I don't know how I missed this one, what a great project/car. I'll be following the build on this