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Engine siezed question for Old Beet.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by k-member, Jun 17, 2005.

  1. k-member
    Joined: May 25, 2002
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    Old Beets wife was driving their 64 Studebaker to work the other morning and about 9 miles from home she said that the car started lacking power and just died. Old beet got it home and tryed to start it and that ****** is siezed up big time. He has pulled the timming cover thinking it broke a timming chain and guess what, no chain it's all gears. So next, thinking it dropped a valve, pulled the rocker covers, and everything looks good there. The motor is a stude V8 with an automatic. Every time he trys to turn it over the crank pully looks like it moves only about an 1/16 of an inch. He tryed to turn it by hand with a 6' foot breaker bar and it still wont turn. Next he pulled the plugs to see if a cylinder was full of water and so for things still look normal. The motor never got hot so heat was not a factor and still had plenty of oil. I think he is going to pull the dizzy and check for broken shaft or broken gears next. The question is...Anybody have any other ideas what could have caused this? Or what the major malfunction is? Any other thoughts or ideas would be heplful. Thanks.
     
  2. Upchuck
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    from Canada BC

    might have spun a connecting rod or main bearing and welded it tight
     
  3. old beet
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    Oil pump or drive I'm thinkin. Valves and pistons seem to be in the rite place. I'll just keep pullin off parts.............Thanks,.........OLDBEET
     
  4. FWilliams
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    did you try pulling the timing gears .....if the cam siezed you should be able to turn the rest over after you pull the gears.....the small amount it is moving could be the slop in the timing gears? if it didnt get hot i wouldnt think a piston siezed to a wall....but i have seen stranger things

    Fred
     
  5. orcas tow
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    Might be worth pulling the starter to see if the drive is still engaged with the flywheel, Iv'e seen drives stick in due to faulty solonoids/sticking drives & the starter finally seizes while driving because it isnt designed to spin that fast.
     
  6. curbspeed
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    Old Beet. Could be a bent rod. It happened to me once.Same symptom as yours.
     
  7. randydupree
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    first thing i do in a deal like this is take the oil filter off,saw it in half,pull the paper out and inspect the paper for metal etc..if its full of metal,it has a bad rod or main bearing or sometimes the wrist pin has backed out of the piston and scored up the cyl. wall..simple easy and fast..randy
     
  8. k-member
    Joined: May 25, 2002
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    Did ya figure it out yet Dad? Come on, it's still a mystery.
     
  9. Paul
    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
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    what did it sound like?

    no smoking, knocking, screeching, clacking, banging, wheezing, coughing, over heating, gushing fluids, parts falling off or...

    just a loss of power and siezed when cool?

    does sound like a main bearing, wrist pin...

    I've been trying to reach a buddy, Ted, maybe if Paul reads this he can have better luck.

    Either one of them might know where a runner could be found..

    Mr. Windshield, got your ears on?

    Paul
     
  10. Upchuck
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    Old Beet you find out the problem yet?
     
  11. k-member
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    Still don't know, but lookin for a runner!!!!!!.......OLDBEET
     
  12. Paul
    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
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    I'm sure you are,
    but I've been watching the Buy-n-Sell, Little Nickle, Craigslist for ya too..

    kinda surprised you haven't stuffed a big block Ford in there yet,
    thought that was all you run.
     

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