stupid welding question

Has anyone ever used the welding/splatter paper to put on their frames or other pieces they are welding to keep the slag off of the pieces? Yes, I'm using a small wire welder without gas and the slag splatters are terrible. I was curious if I used this stuff if it would cut down on the splatter a lot without starting a fire. i know it sounds stupid, but that's just the way my simple mind works. cant afford new gas welder. I've also got sticke welder but same thing happens. I must also say i'm a pretty new welder.

 

spatter spray might work..(its actually called spatter)

http://sprayfill.com/WELDINGPROTECTION.aspx

it could also be the setting you have it at,

 

Go to the welding supply and buy some anti-splatter to spray on the area around the weld. Makes it a lot easier to clean up.

 

I have us it when repairing RV's to protect interior components such as dashes and upholstery. Worked good for me.As stated above anti-splatter spray will help clean up by keeping the splatter from sticking.

 

WD40 works a anti spatter spray in a pinch.

 

YUp welding spatter spray works wonders, are you using a flux cored wire?

 

agreed.

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Yes its flux cored wire

 

Hey,
If my memory is working....WD40 is FLAMMABLE...Not what I'd like to weld around. I'm going to check on it when I get home
Bruce

 

Try experimenting with the distance between the wire tip to weld pool as it may help reduce the splatter some. Go for that smooth bacon frying sound. A good ground helps too.

 

Thanks for the tips. Anything to help me better is appreciated. Do you mean it should be closer? Part of my issue is that when i was researching to buy a wire welder, all i kept hearing about was duty cycle this and duty cycle that. Granted i didnt buy a really expensive, but my mimd says go quick so the machine dont shut down

 

" Do you mean it should be closer?"

You want to experiment both closer and further until you hear a smooth sound like bacon frying. Practice on a clean flat piece of metal 1st until you get the hang of it. Once you get the sound right you should see less spatter, but you will never get rid of all of it. Also, once you get smooth experiment with wire feed speed and voltage to see what makes the least spatter.

 

It makes pretty flames when it catches fire too. Not the greatest thing to use for that purpose.

 

SILICONE SPRAY in a can. Welding shops even stock it. (just don't fill the air with it if you're going to paint something...)

 

Paint doesnt like to stick to metal after being sprayed with wd40.

 

I was told that you could use PAM cookin spray. Haven't tried it so I can't confirm it yet.

 

Really soapy water

 

Don't worry about your duty cycle. Concentrate on getting the best weld. As others have stated, listen for the sound, watch the puddle and get your technique down pat. If you exceed the duty cycle, have a cool one and let the machine rest. You're only likely to trip the breaker if you're cranked up and really pushing the machine hard.

 

also with flux core it likes to be dragged not pushed when welding with it. that might help with some splatter, but flux is always gonna have alot of spatter, just the nature of the beast. you can try turning your wire down some with a lil more heat as well. remember flux runs different then lets say er-70 wire which is your standard wire you'd get for running with a gas welder, from any local shop.

 

I guess the paper works ok, but I've only seen it used on windows and mirrors. Big truck body builders use it to keep spatter off them while welding. These are generally verticle surfaces. I don't know how it would work if the sparks laid directly on a horizontal surface.

 

unless you are burning a lot of wire over a fairly long time, duty cycle won't mean much.
50% Duty cycle means that the machine is rated to run for 5 minutes out of 10. For most home/hobby welding, that's not going to be exceeded.

To get less spatter (you probably won't get to none with flux core), try a different wire size(if possible), and different arc lengths. You might also try different amp settings. It wouldn't take too long to experiment with these 3 things on a piece of s**** to see you can cut down on the amount of spatter you have to clean up.

Y'all have a good day, Keith

 

HereAre the ugliest welds you will ever see. They are strong enough to take a licking from the sledge bfh. Advice and comments appreciated. Was the white fluffy stuff the flux burning off on the back of the welds? I cant post pics from my iphone (at least i dont know how yet). Will get them on here in a few

 

Can i email them to someone and you post them for me? If not i will have to do it tomorrow at work

 

Are you using DC Straight Polarity (the electrode will be negative) and is the ground clamp clean,tight and on your work?

 

Not sure of that. It came ready to weld

 

I used the welding and spark deflection paper by 3M to protect the dash when mig welding the floor of my '56 DelRay. Had to weld up the shift linkage hole the PO made for the M21 because I installed a TKO600 5-spd which requires a different location for the shifter hole. Also, I have welding blankets I covered the rear seat with. You do not want sparks to contact the gl*** either.

 

that's a 10-4 on that. cheaper, too.

 

Are you using DC Straight Polarity (the electrode will be negative) and is the ground clamp clean,tight and on your work?

I agree totally.......the cored wire will need to be ran electrode negative. You will encounter a lot of spatter BALLS all over your weld and the weld will not look right either.
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