Had my 51 Bel Air painted. The fella painted it Tuesday, I went to inspect it and the hood, front fenders and doors did not p*** my inspection. So he "prepped" 'em and re shot 'em Friday. I talked to him Saturday and they all came out "good". So, I get a phone call right before the kick off of the Super Bowl and he tells me that he was wet sanding and buffing another car in his shop and he laid masking paper on the fenders of my car to protect it, and the paper stuck?! The paint was over 36 hours old. And his shop has been a constant "72 degrees". He used the SEM Hot Rod Black. Is there something wrong with the paint??? If he repaints it Monday or Tuesday, is the previous 2 paint jobs underneath ever gonna dry/cure correctly??? Will it shrink, crack, wrinkle???
Sounds like he didnt use an activator. If thats the case I would strip that layer off and start over.
If he tries to paint over where the paper stuck, its gona wrinkle... The can of worms gets opened right after that. Its obvious he didnt put the correct amount of activator.
First off you must have taken the low bid. If you are paying someone to paint a car make sure he has a dedicated paint booth. The painted car should not have been in a area where he is preping another vehicle. Sounds as thought you have a mess on your hands. Most likely no other painter will touch it.
I dont have a "paint booth" just a tarped area with bunch of lights and a fan... Not everyone shop can afford a 100k paint booth... And my paint jobs still come out all right... None of those have been wet sanded/buffed
we had this problem with DuPont paint, and clear coat that was prepped and shot exactly as it should be. First the paint was reacting with their primer products and would cause the entire roof to crack and random spots on the doors and fenders to do the same. I think we stripped everything multiple times until it finally decided to be OK. Once the paint and clear looked good we let it harden and for 2 months the clear WOULD NOT dry. we had it in a professional booth, put it in there and baked it at 100+ degrees for over an hour. Nothing would work. We learned of this when we tried to wet sand and buff it and the clear would swirl around. DuPont came to look at it and offered no help; couldnt explain it. the clear was soft enough to put a finger nail in for several months. it was BAD. needless to say its okay now but it took 4-5 months and now the car needs to be completely wet sanded and buffed again. We will never be using DuPont products again....
^^^ Sounds like wrong hardner/ improperly mixed to me... The cracking from the primer could be different types of paint reacting together, ie enamal... Just a thought... Paint companies if it is their fault with a product will pay for new materials and labor to repair. PPG sold me an "adhesion promoter" that was suppossed to be able to be sprayed on a piece of plastic with no prior prep work and paint would stick no problem... 2 months later the car came back with half the paint off... Paid for all repairs no problems...
if you were to bring us your car to repaint id tell you i would not touch it unless it was back down to the metal. not knowing for sure what is under all of it and how it was mixed id feel safer knowing i had a clean slate to start with.but i would really think about getting me someone else to shoot it for you.i cant see prepping a car in the same area as a fresh up paint job.too many chances for a **** up.
I'm no pro but if the paint is not set up enough for tape after 36 hours it's too cold or no activator. I painted numerous autos for myself and others. That will have to be sanded out out and resprayed unless he can buff it out. I would be leery of picking it up until it's to your satisfaction. The guy may be an amateur but sounds like your car is becoming a timely learning experience for him. Sometimes our budgets really stifle a project.. Family price,,case of beer,,all others,,jug of single malt
In my 25 years of painting cars, never haerd of such a thing i would be stripping it back and starting over with paint and painter!!
nope. it was mixed and prepped professionally by people who do this everyday. Upon multiple attempts to re-do it; it kept doing the same thing over and over again. The professionals determined that it was a bad reaction between the primer and the paint. All products were purchased from dupont after asking what should be used on the car...so we bought it as a package to ensure a nice outcome. A friend of ours who just had a car painted with dupont a few weeks ago just had the same problem.... It took us over a month to get a dupont rep to even come and look at the car. In the meantime; the car sat there for a month waiting for a person to come look at it. they kept telling us theyd be there that week and then no-show....and finally after about 4-6 weeks someone came...looked at it for 5 minutes. Hummed and hawwwed over it and then told everyone in the shop that the clear coat was put on too thick and then he left. Well geeee.... here's a big F-U to these idiots at DuPont. We spent almost 2K in paint supplies to paint our car and we will never ever again pay for Dupont. if the car was a customer's car the shop wouldve lost their shirt.
HOK is my favorite paint by far... But... It costs soooo much... HOK is House of Kolor for those of you who arent paint savvy.
Had the EXACT same thing happen after painting a bike with Dupont Candy and the only thing the Rep could say is that we must have not let the base cure enough in between coats, and the solvents trying to escape will never let the clear harden. But that makes no sense, the clear should get hard no matter what, and when it goes out in the sun, then the clear should bubble and fall right off. i.e. the first gen Dodge Neons, (supposedly thats why all their paint fell off )
That would cause "solvent popping" which is when you dont give enough time between coats and the solvents are still trying to escape. It is made worse by force drying, ie baking... Looks like below...
If you want to be sure it's done right and save yourself a lot of headache, it all needs to come back down to bare metal again. And you need to fire your painter.
PS.. If its "gummy" youll have a pain blasting it off, and nearly impossible sanding it off, it will just gum up your paper... So stripper and s****er it is...
There is something wrong when any thing sticks to modern paints after about four hours drying time, I would strip it and start over. Hardened paint shouldn't be tacky after 36 hours..
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