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Price of the new metal 32 five window announced

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by DropTopD, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. VoodooTwin
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    That's not even close to the issue as far as I am concerned.
     
  2. oldcarfart
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    along with the Chinese made American flags.
     
  3. Cowtown Speed Shop
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    Kenny,
    I looked at that body!......And So have many others, At the price it is hard to believe he still has it. As much as I didn't want to I had to walk away from it at $6000.00 .....It needs a little more than door bottoms...Picture makes it look alot better than it is.....LOL..But it is saveable
     
  4. big duece
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    That car was in Topeka, ks and when a friend called(3 weeks ago) it was sold
     
  5. henry29
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    You can buy 64-66 mustang quarter panels stamped in Taiwan for under $100,
    So why is it a 32 ford quarter panel stamped in Taiwan is $1,500.
     
  6. Harms Way
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    Alright,.. This thread is like watching a Ping-Pong game (a little Chinese lingo for ya there :cool:) So this will be my last post on here,.. I have no problem with the price if it's made with the same quality as a Brookville, or SAR, From what I seen first hand, this wasn't the case,.. But that could just be some issue they have already taken care of. But to the best of my knowlege, They have yet to show a finished product, but they know the price it will be marketed at?,... Has anybody seen a complete body ??? Are they taking deposits ???

    The comment below is where I have an issue


    If they are having them "stamped over seas because of production cost", And are marketing them here at a price very close to the Brookville 3/W Coupe, that is made entirely in the US,.. Being stamped in Michigan regardless of the production cost. And Brookville has a reputation and track record for excellent quality that spans decades. Like I said, quality is everything, let's see em'
     
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  7. Ghost of ElMirage
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    I wouldnt buy one because it is made over seas buy american!
     
  8. How does displaying a Union Jack show American pride?:rolleyes:
     
  9. Cowtown Speed Shop
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    Well it seems to me That everyone that is bitching about the cost of the new body, Has still yet to say what they think it should be priced at, bottom line is, They made the investment, they done all the work, So they deserve to be able to set their own price. If you don't like it! Don't buy it!! Throw out some of your own time and money and make one here in the US and sell them cheaper, Hell I am as much for a good price as anyone...
     
  10. Cowtown Speed Shop
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    When brookville first come out with the 3 window body it was priced at 30K and you had to pre order it, there was a 2 year wait on production time, They pre sold almost 100 bodies before they even built them. It is my understanding that United Pacific is spending their own money out of pocket. So I would say that is the biggest reason for trying to get it done as cost effective as posible.....
     
  11. Rocky Famoso
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    ONE AT A TIME
    >
    > A physics teacher in high school, once told the students that while one
    > grasshopper on the railroad tracks wouldn't slow a train very much, a
    > billion of them would. With that thought in mind, read the following,
    > obviously written by a good American . . .
    >
    > This probably sounds crazy, but just yesterday I was in Wal Mart looking
    > for a wastebasket. I found some made in Chinafor$6.99.
    > I didn't want to pay that much so I asked the lady if they had any
    > others.
    > She took me to another department and they had some at $2.50 made in USA
    > . They are just as good.
    >
    > Same as a kitchen rug I needed. I had to look, but I found some made in
    > the USA and they were $3.00 cheaper. We are being brain washed that
    > everything that comes from China and Mexico is cheaper. Not so. That is
    > also why I don't buy cards at Hallmark anymore. They are made in China
    > and are expensive. I buy them atDollar Tree....50 cents each and made in
    > USA .
    >
    > Check this out. I can verify this because I was in Lowe's the other day
    > for some reason and just for the heck of it I was looking at the hose
    > attachments...
    > They were all made in China .
    > The next day I was in Ace Hardware and just for the heck of it I checked
    > the hose attachments there. They were made in USA . Start looking .....
    >
    > In our current economic situation, every little thing we buy or do
    > affects someone else - even their job. So, after reading this email, I
    > think this lady is on the right track.. Let's get behind her!
    >
    > My grandson likes Hershey's candy. I noticed, though, that it is marked
    > made in Mexico now. I do not buy it any more.
    >
    > My favorite toothpaste Colgate is made in Mexico ... Now I have switched
    > to Crest. You have to read the labels on everything.... Good idea . . ..
    > One light bulb at a time . . ..
    >
    > This past weekend I was at Kroger . .. . I needed 60W light bulbs and
    > Bounce dryer sheets.
    > I was in the light bulb aisle, and right next to the GE brand I normally
    > buy was an off-brand labeled, " Everyday Value ..." I picked up both
    > types of bulbs and compared the stats they were the same except
    > For the price . . . The GE bulbs were more money than the Everyday Value
    > brand but the thing that surprised me the most was the fact that GE was
    > made in MEXICO and the Everyday Value brand was made in - get ready for
    > this - the USA in a company in Cleveland , Ohio . So throw out the myth
    > that you cannot find products you use every day that are made right
    > here...
    >
    > So on to another aisle - Bounce Dryer Sheets... Yep, you guessed it,
    > Bounce cost more money and is made in Canada ... The Everyday Value
    > brand was less money and MADE IN THE USA! I did laundry yesterday and
    > the dryer sheets performed just like the Bounce Free I have been using
    > for years and at almost half the price!
    >
    > My challenge to you is to start reading the labels when you shop for
    > everyday things and see what you can find that is made in the USA - the
    > job you save may be your own or your neighbors!
    >
    > If you accept the challenge, pass this on to others in your address book
    > so we can all start buying American, one light bulb at a time! Stop
    > buying from overseas companies!
    >
    > (We should have awakened a decade ago....)
    >
    > Let's get with the program and help our fellow Americans keep their jobs
    > and create more jobs here in the USA ...
    ...
     
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  12. Cowtown Speed Shop
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    Everyone says this, including myself, And really for the most part it is not true......example, I did not have to buy the 29.00 ceiling fan at walmart the other day, there is a company who makes fans here in the US.....both fans look the same, however the US one is $149.00........bottom line is if you took the US made option everytime you could, You would never be able to afford it, And same goes for most of us.
     
  13. Harms Way
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    Going back on my own word,.. Brookville's 3/W was 24 K,.. SAR 34' 3/W was 30K,.. Cowtown,... This is not a got cha' question,... But are you a dealer or are you planning on being a dealer for the 5/W's offered by United Pacific ? Just curious.
     
  14. Harms Way
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    Given your own scenario, If the All American made Deuce 3/W is 25K,... the imported one should be Approximately $6,000. :D ( and yes,... this last comment was just messin with ya')
     
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  15. Cowtown Speed Shop
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    Harms, Yes I am a dealer For United Pacific products, And So are most other shops that everyone buys parts from. I am not trying to create waves with no one here, But I get tired of hearing people Cry about the cost of something, When they have No idea what it took to bring that item to market,
     
  16. Cowtown Speed Shop
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    Thats funny!!.........let me know when they are ready and I can pick them up!......Are you going to offer them chopped as well??:D:D:D
     
  17. Harms Way
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    Heck NO,... After this thread,.. I am guessing fiberglass bodies made in the US will be the next traditional fad !!!:D
     
  18. Rocky Famoso
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    Chineese made fiberglass bodies are probably going to be cheaper...:D
    ...
     
  19. Harms Way
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    If they made them in Cuba, they could just flip them upside down and row them over !! :cool::eek::D:D:D
     
  20. Cowtown Speed Shop
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    Harms,
    Also Just for the record, If I wanted a 3 window, I would spend the extra money and buy the brookville before buying the other, But I myself do not like 3 windows. I myself have 3 real steel henry 5 windows, and am not in the market anyhow......But I think some who have posted here and keep comparing the brookville to the U.P. one, are losing sight of the fact that some of us just don't want a 3 window.
     
  21. I've already resolved to myself I will never own one , too many kids , too many bills and too many vices but you are right on one thing if I ever do own a 32 it will more than likely be plastic.. I know I'm not alone!
     
  22. Harms Way
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    :(:mad::eek::eek::eek::confused::eek::mad:

    You !!!,... You!!!!,..You!!!!! COMMIE !!!!!:D;)

    ( I have one of each,... couldn't make up my mind, like em' both !)
     
  23. fef100
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    I am from north of the border. The first thing I look for is "Made in Canada", second, "Made in the USA". If I can't find either, I ask myself how bad I really need it. Sometimes, if I can, I will make whatever I need before buying offshore. I have a lot of friends out of work, and I get pissed when "made on our continent" is no longer an option, at any cost.

    Also, if I can't find Canadian or American product, I ask for it, ask for a manager, and leave with nothing if they don't have it. When we don't settle on what we want, it will start to show up in the stores. Most have only been concerned with cost, that is how we ended up in this situation.
     
  24. Weasel
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    Repro steel bodies are the new fiberglass....;)
     
  25. fef100
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    Exactly. Many people don't want to go to the "hassle" of rebuilding a real car when they can buy a new "better" one.
     
  26. HellsHotRods
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    YESSS!!!!!!!



    Keep the money in the USA, buy old steel, save it, make it work.
     
  27. Bad Daddy
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    Did I miss something? I didn't see anywhere in the Bob Drake '40 Ford flyer where it said it was all proudly made in the USA. . .
     
  28. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    I'm with you Kev.

    What's odd is that everyone will buy Aussie made 34 bodies from Australia, Swedish 32 5/w bodies from Sweden as well as new domestic cars that have sub assy's, drivetrains, etc. built in Mexico, etc. without a blink.
    However...nearly everyone on this thread balks at a domestically owned, brewed, based, financed, tooled 32 5/w product that is stamped overseas.

    I'm as patriotic as can be and don't all together like it either but the reality is that the domestic stamping costs were probably not the only factor. They also probably loathed all the ball bustin' domestic regulations, flaming hoops to jump through.

    (Cowtown's quote):
    When brookville first come out with the 3 window body it was priced at 30K and you had to pre order it, there was a 2 year wait on production time, They pre sold almost 100 bodies before they even built them. It is my understanding that United Pacific is spending their own money out of pocket. So I would say that is the biggest reason for trying to get it done as cost effective as posible.....


    30k times 100 pre orders= 3 million. That surely paid their tooling investment but we didn't see their price drop after the first 100 and nobody is bitching about the Brookville 3/w being overpriced!
    To me, it's $500 of sheet metal and $29,500 of Return On Investment (profit). Making a profit on a good product-what the hell.
    It's what the market will bear. Hell, Brookville's 32 roadster quarters are twice what they price their Model A roadster quarters at. They're not double to tool/produce. It's a 32 "premium".

    I've always wondered if/when we'll see true copycat knockoff from a 3rd world owned Co. that tooled and stamped panels. There's stamping presses on every continent and it isn't hard to imagine a die/press in Asia, South America, Eastern Europe, etc. pounding out a $300 panel that are real "close" to panels we willingly pay $1000-$1500 for. An all Chinese created 32? Happens all the time with other products. The Chinese are experts at reverse engineering our products/tooling and turning out their own version.
     
  29. Cyclone Kevin
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    I gotta say you're mistaken on this tidbit of info;). When Kenny was working on bringing the very best replacement 32 styled 3W body to market back in 2004, I was offered an early # @ less than $19k with all of the bells and whistles.

    They didn't use their pre-orders to finance their newest product, They didn't even request a down. Just a commitment when the body was completed. At that point it would be C.O.D.
    This was offered by Kenny himself. If I could have afforded it, I'd have done it.
    I'm glad that there will be competition out in the replacement body arena, I just prefer to have them made in the good ol U.S.of A.:D
     
  30. djmartins
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    Sure a lot of hate now that one can actually buy BRAND NEW steel bodies for 70+ year old cars!
    I doubt that the powers that be will even ALLOW "hot rods" to be on the road in twenty years so enjoy it while you can!
     

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