Shot my bed today, single stage, so much dust in it I wanted to puke. I got everything out of the garage, swept, hosed it down, even misted the walls. The wind was 10 mph or less outside. How do you keep the dust off? . Looks like I also ruined the garage floor.
It looks good in the picture you posted, but I know pictures can hide a lot and you wouldnt be posting this if it looked good! If you hosed everything down, I dont know what else to suggest other than maybe putting those big sheets of plastic all over the place.. I would let it dry and try color sanding it and buffing it.. that can take an incredible amount of texture out of a paint job.
At home, it's darned near impossible. One trick that I've heard of, but never tried, is to ground the part your painting. Also, I sweep the day before painting. It gives the dirt time to settle. At least you can sand and buff it out.
Don't know about grounding the part but sweeping the day before is a must. I also wet the floor down to keep me from stirring up dust when I walk. It doesn't hurt to have an exhaust fan in the gable on one end of the garage as well. It liftes any airborn dust away from your work.
I have 3 windows in my garage I opened and covered in furnace filter material. 2 Box fans under garage door. Covered the garage in plastic sheeting. (That was a hell of a lot more work than I anticipated.) Worked really well. I won't show you the car 'cause it's OT around these parts.
All those nick knacks and decorations are also known as dust collectors. Start spraying air around and the dust moves to your fresh paint. Paint booth has almost no horizontal surfaces.
Lots of times it's not actually dust, but paint mist that drys in the air and falls back on the paint. That's when the exhaust fan someone mentioned earlier is a good thing. Move that mist out before it falls! If that's what it is, cut and buff will clean it up.
Sweeping the day before is a good idea. Blow off the car the day before too. I hang drop cloths from the ceiling to the floor, covering all shelving, benches, tool boxes, etc. Day of paint, I put a box fan under the garage door and let it run for a half hour or so before you start. I wet the floor, then wet it again. No audience. Those paper cover-alls are a good idea, dust can come from the cloths you've been working in. Now wet the floor again, tack, and have at it. The less movement, the better (the reason for no on-lookers).
Most dirt comes off of the painter or whats being painted. Most of the dust in your spray area is stuck to whatever. You did use a fresh tack rag , right ? And as your very last step? Clean area, clean part to be painted, get in your suit, mix , test gun pattern, tack off one final time? I'd like to add that if your final wash is with a prep-sol type of product , it helps develop static. Kill the static by mixing some water base cleaner.... 1 quart clean tap water, 1 pint of rubbing alcohol and a few drops of dawn dishsoap will lift off the surface what the solvents can't and kills static electricity. then mix , test, tack and apply color. Product data sheets are a must, but they often don't tell the novice exactly how to prep for pro results. Clean, sand and re-shoot, practise makes perfect. In the last 40 years I have made every painting mistake possible at least once. Good luck, Gary
I was always taught that 90% of the dirt in a paint job was on the car before is was painted. It is all in the prep. Yes clean everything the day before. Also you want the air to move over the new paint, but it dosen't have to blow like a hurricane.
I put a blue tarp down on the floor roll the car in and put up cheap clear plastic on the ceilings and walls. I then tack cloth the car and it works great for me.
Plastic over everything, taped down in corners. Big exhaust fans to clear out booth. Prep the night before, allow air to be still. Clean hose. Very early AM, Slip into your paint area already to go. keeping movement to a minimum. Cheap jump suit, lint free. Head sock!, No freaking exposed beards! Fresh tack cloth right before laying down your color. Learn to wet sand and buff. Hey, it's another facet of the build. Good-luck Jim!
what i have found to get dust free paint jobs is to thoroughly clean the shop, and as said the car. put up a piece of new plastic in the shop it acts like a dust magnet. then leave and come back the next day with clean clothes. tack rag off any dust that settled over night and spray. DON'T pet the dog!
I did the same thing. here is the temperary paint booth my wife and I put up to paint our 39.works great.
I've only ever used a paint booth once - and that time I had more debris than ever in the garage. As others have said, wash down the floors, cover what you can, tack of the car (several times), have an exhaust fan (run it for a while before painting), clean clothes, etc. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is wipe down your air hose. Most of us drag the hose across the floor, drop it when we remove a tool, etc. Usually a little thinner will clean it of dirt, oil, etc. Also, limit opening and closing the door - and if you step out between coats, close the door VERY softly. If you run an exhaust fan, you create a minor vacuum that can actually draw dust into the garage, and if the door is slammed dust collected on the ceiling can drop. When the dust in the air gets coated with heavy paint, it drops like a brick! Someone above suggested it could also be over-spray settling back. This is especially significant in a traditional high pressure gun as there's significantly more over-spray. If you don't have one, an investment in a good HVLP would be wise. The results look good in the pics...have fun wet sanding and buffing!
I swepted and watered the night before,even misted the walls and posters,did it again right before i shot. I had plastic on the floor but my shoes kept sticking to the plastic where the water dried. maybe removing the plastic stired up the dust. I'll take the posters down when i shoot the cab. I blew the truck off the day before, but not the next day when i shot, just tacked it off. very little dust on the tack rag. Im using a tp tools turbine sprayer, i dont have a compressor. i didnt have a fan, just stayed in the garage till it was done. I hope the cab goes better, i dont think my bodywork is straight enough to sand & buff without hitting some high spots this is my first time spraying anything but primer and first time using a turbine.
Chainsaw, The lack of a fan might have been the real culprit. When those paint particles dry and fall back down, it can seem just like dust. Can you see dust - something of a different color? Or just general trash and roughness? If you can't sand and buff, don't let that coat of paint go to waste - use it to block out the panels one more time! Also...just saw your last line. Is it a new turbine, or has something been sprayed before that could be coming out as contamination?
Step one: Clean the air filter on your compressor, the compressor itself, and the line if you wanna get real fancy.
You have good ideas here with the plastic cover up and minimum movement. I like to paint also at about 4:00 am because the dew has the dust down and usually little wind movement then.
Dirt can be a challenge. Even in the best, most expensive booths, your bound to get some. Majority comes from you, or the car, so car should be cleaned, all cracks blown out well, as well as you wearing a good paint suit, spray sock, ect. Use a good- and new paper. Lot of fuzz and dirt can come from cheap paper. Wipe down the end of your spray hose, and hang it up when not using. Using Positive pressure ventilation (filtered air blowing in, filtered exhaust exit) can help dirt being ****ed out of every crack in the garage. The top dollar booths use downdraft ventilation, so overspray and dirt are ****ed to the floor, and away from car and painter, instead of a crossflow, which drags everything right along the car. Very little dirt is actually usually is going to come from the floor, unless you get down there with your spray gun and blow it up. A wet floor actually has the potential for causing a lot of problems with the paint, or if it raises the humidity level high, not to mention the possibility of spashing water up into the wet paint. What many people don't realize, is wetting the floor can possibly create a dirtier job in activated paints. Iso's love moisture (which is why you should cover your eyes, as well as skin and protecting your lungs when dealing with activated paint) and moisture helps them kick. Moisture can cause iso clumping which will look just like a really dirty paint job. After learning more, I no longer paint with a wet floor. I am with others and blowing out the area real well the day prior, and hosing everything down, but everything has evaporated by the time I paint. Just a few ideas in the battle for a clean paint job. If you ever find out how to paint something without getting a dirt spec in it, let me know. I remember the first job I got out of tech school at a dealership. Old crossflow booth, and the only time you could get a semi clean paint job, was when it was raining outside. Quite a change from the nice booth the tech school had. No place I ever painted for a living had a very nice booth, and many were homemade. That along with quite a few paint jobs, and the screw ups that can happen painting, you learn to become a pretty good wetsander and buffer. I also use to think a nice expensive gun didn't make that much difference, and you could paint perfectly fine with a cheap one, till I finally spent the money and bought an iwata. Well, no overspray cloud lingering to look through, lower pressure to kick less **** up, really nice pattern, no going back and hitting areas that look too dry and majority of the paint going on the vehicle where it belongs instead of the air really does make a difference.
An exhaust fan is a must. And it doesn't need to be on high. A regular 20" box fan set on med works real good. When you are finished turn the fan down to low ad let it run for several hours. This will help remove the solvents as they are evaporating. I was taught by an old timer to place the fans so they push air into the room you are painting in. This will lightly pressurize the room and keep the dust from becoming airborne. If you use the fans to pull air out of the room you will create a vacuum which can **** dust out of every crack and crevice.
Its a used turbine but i noticed there is no dust in the tailgate or the trim pieces hanging away from the truck. im thinking there must have been dust in the paper covering the bed floor.
Did you wash the bed a day or two before painting ,Prep solvent ,Tack rag.Leaf blower ,Theres my suggestion,Even booth's gets dust,
"Its a used turbine but i noticed there is no dust in the tailgate or the trim pieces hanging away from the truck. im thinking there must have been dust in the paper covering the bed floor." They are also vertical surfaces. Dried over-spray cannot settle on them.
Likely, if you weren't using masking paper. Newspaper is the worst. Something else...for everybody to note.....tack rags.... ALWAYS when you open up your nice new tack rag from it's package, unfold it COMPLETELY until it's one big sheet of sticky cloth, then wad it up in a ball like the paper towel you dried your hands on last time you used the restroom at the gas station... They are way WAY more efficient(more surface area). Fact. And tack EVERYTHING....body, tape, paper---if you're pointing a gun at it, TACK it.
Looks good from here but pics always do..Blow the ceiling a day or so ahead,,grounding vehicle are good,,I vacuum the garage floor. I used to wet the floor but was told the moisture may cause problems with paint. I Paint frequently,,infact more that I want to..Wetsand and buff will clean that up..I am no expert at buffing so I am doing it by hand.. If insects are a problem spray,,I had a earwig land on fresh paint on my 68 firebird and the damn thing did a death march up the sail panel! I am experimenting with buffing this truck,
It was news paper, its all i have. I also found a major run,wiped it smoth with reducer. Guess Ill hit it with 1000 grit and reshoot
When I painted my truck I blew out the shop real good then layed down some of that rosen paper or whatever you get from Home Depot. Then wiped the truck down, tacked it off like 4 times before I sprayed it and got hardly any dust in it....that is until this big *** bee came flying in frome nowhere and landed right in the paint! But it all buffed out and looks bad***!!
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