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Conroe, TX area HAMBer in Need of Some Expert Help!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rustyfords, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. rustyfords
    Joined: Jun 17, 2008
    Posts: 1,295

    rustyfords
    Member
    from Conroe, TX

    I'm throwing up the white flag of surrender y'all.

    I've done everything in my bag of tricks to get the 302 in my 54 Ford tudor to start and I get nothing.

    If you're local to north Houston/Montgomery County and are really good with ignition wiring, etc. and would be willing to pay a house call....I'd be eternally grateful if you could stop by and help me get my 302 fired up.

    My build thread (linked below) has the details of my build, but here's the cliff notes:

    - 302 from an 88 Lincoln Towncar (with a 1993 AOD behind it)
    - HEI distributor
    - One-wire alternator
    - Mini-starter
    - Wiring kit from Hot Rod Wires.

    - The engine turns over nicely, but I get no ignition. It occasionally backfires and spits and sputters, so I'm sure it's timing, but I've checked, rechecked, and triple-checked everything, and nada.

    I'm sure it's just a dumb-*** thing that I'm overlooking, but I'm at my wits end.

    HELP!
     
  2. Andy
    Joined: Nov 17, 2002
    Posts: 5,391

    Andy
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    The amplifier/pick up in the dist is notorious for failing. Might as well try one as you need a spare anyway.
    If it turns over very easily, it may have a slipped timing chain. They did that too. Check compression.
     
  3. ScottyVenture
    Joined: Jul 13, 2008
    Posts: 114

    ScottyVenture
    Member

    Are you positive the dizzy is not 180* out?
     
  4. rustyfords
    Joined: Jun 17, 2008
    Posts: 1,295

    rustyfords
    Member
    from Conroe, TX

    I'll do that.....the distributor is brand new, but you never know.

    It turns over about like it should.
     
  5. rustyfords
    Joined: Jun 17, 2008
    Posts: 1,295

    rustyfords
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    from Conroe, TX

    Yeah...I even pulled the valve cover last night, to watch the intake valve shut as it reached TDC.
     
  6. rustyfords
    Joined: Jun 17, 2008
    Posts: 1,295

    rustyfords
    Member
    from Conroe, TX

    I've never messed with a one-wire alternator and an HEI distributor....so I could be missing something obvious in the wiring....although I wired it exactly like I was told to by more than one knowledgeable person.
     
  7. DD COOPMAN
    Joined: Jul 25, 2009
    Posts: 1,122

    DD COOPMAN
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    Hmmmm.......The intake valve should be "just closing" somewhere just after BOTTOM DEAD CENTER. Ya might want to check that timing chain thingie Andy mentioned. Good luck! DD
     
  8. RDAH
    Joined: Mar 23, 2007
    Posts: 465

    RDAH
    Member
    from NL, WI

    Make sure the wires on the dist. cap are set up like a 351 ? & not an older 302 =15426378.
     
  9. rustyfords
    Joined: Jun 17, 2008
    Posts: 1,295

    rustyfords
    Member
    from Conroe, TX

    This evening, I checked compression and got the following readings:

    Cylinder 1 109
    Cylinder 2 100
    Cylinder 3 112
    Cylinder 4 120
    Cylinder 5 125
    Cylinder 6 155
    Cylinder 7 125
    Cylinder 8 130
     
  10. rustyfords
    Joined: Jun 17, 2008
    Posts: 1,295

    rustyfords
    Member
    from Conroe, TX

    These readings seem low to me but this is on a cold engine with cylinders washed down with gas from cranking on it for a while.

    I don't know if those factors could bring down the compression readings that much though.
     

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