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Fix Your Axle tech (super basic)

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 296 V8, Mar 4, 2012.

  1. 296 V8
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    So your prized swap meet find was for sale for a reason …. The kingpins are lose and or the camber is way off :mad::(

    Lets fix it ourselves with minimal tools

    Camber change …..stuff you’ll need
    Angle finder
    Vice / or a way to hold axle level
    Lose spindle
    Kingpin
    30 + ton press

    Here’s how I hold axles level … (because I do this allot) …. Obviously if your just doing this only a time or two a sturdy mounted vice will do …. You do have one yes?

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    The subject today is Gary’s (Krylon 32) Deuce axle that needs some help.
    First level the axle
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    As in real level ..... (Real level is 39 bucks at home depot...buy2)
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    Next put on a spindle and see were your at … in this case 2.7 degrees positive (a bit much)
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    Next move it to the press
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    A thick plate and an ***ortment of blocks to shim it with are key
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    Bend away but go slow and check often or
    you will be doing VVVV THIS! :mad: VVVV
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    After a few times back and forth checking you should have it … You want to put in about a degree and a half positive for a stock ford axle (((need to check specks for other makes)))
    And that’s about it :)
    BTW
    It takes about 25 to 30 tons to move / bend it so you will need a bit more than a HF press
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    I use a pruned down 32 spindle but a uncut one works fine.
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    Last edited: Mar 4, 2012
  2. 2935ford
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    Great info...thanks!
     
  3. 296 V8
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    Now for that pesky Kingpin hole thats lose


    Stuff you will need
    Torch
    13/16 ream................... (ford axles)
    Hammers
    Punchs ..........................(br*** to use on your good kingpin)
    2 king pins ....................(1 junk and 1 good)
    A way to run a ream .......(I use an impact )
    Die Grinder with a ¾ stone
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    The Ream (ebay 30 bucks)
    weld a socket on
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    The subject is a random A model axle from the pile...stick that ****er in the vice
    (you still got that solid vice yes?)
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    Now you need an undersize king pin
    I take an old one and first cut the head off
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    Next grind it down anyway you can … I use the belt.
    You want to remove probably 5 thousands or more depending obviously how bad / lose the hole is....round the ends real good.
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    Next you want all your using close at hand
    Heat the effected area
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    Drop in the pin
    And peen aground the area quickly from the very end and work around the sides. Effectively shrinking the hole....then quick (before its stuck) grab that close at hand punch and knock the pin out.

    Think of it kind of like how they resize the big end on a connecting rod...making the hole smaller.
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    Next run that ream in there....like after it cools.
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    Next if your reams like mine its worn and a bit undersize …. So hone with the die grinder to an exact fit.
    Note
    Your probably thinking … why not use a hone?
    Well I don’t because the hole isn’t always round / I want to grind on one side more than the other. Taping in a (good) king pin will tell you were you need to grind … it will make a scuff mark in the hole.
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    Now the good / full size pin is fitting good and snug ... i like um were they take a bit of light tapping to go in.
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    Thats it Kids ..... little to nothing to it ... :)
     
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2012
  4. Rob Paul
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  5. sawbuck
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    great info... thanks
     
  6. Harms Way
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    Great tech !,.. was just about to do this job........
     
  7. Noland
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    awesome. Il have to remember this
     
  8. 296 V8
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  9. titus
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    Thats how ive done it. nice stand. Good tech, we know theres alot of axles in this shape around!
     
  10. tunram2quad
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    Great tech,thanks for your time
     
  11. F-6Garagerat
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    Cool tech, I always wondered how it was done. However, just like my last 2 axles, my next one will be at your place for the works. :D
     
  12. Dirty2
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    Good Tech ! Thanks .
     
  13. butch27
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    Darn: Some really good Tech s this time.
     
  14. 3wLarry
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    thanks...always wondered how they fixed kingpin holes.
     
    kidcampbell71 likes this.
  15. Great tip!

    I am going to use this on an axle I have!

    Sam
     
  16. HellsHotRods
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  17. uncle buck
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    Very well put together with great photo explanations. WELL DONE!
     
  18. dirtbag13
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    very good tech !
     
  19. 296 V8
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    Well Larry iv seen a few that have been reamed larger and bushed back down to size. Doing it that way you end up with a very thin axle end with a very thin bushing….that doesn’t want to stay tight in the hole.

    Thinking about an easer and better solution I decided to try this.
     
  20. chubbie
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    thanks for the tech!
     
  21. Mr48chev
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    Well done and very useful info for a lot of people. Or it may be the deciding factor when it comes to boxing the axle up and shipping it off to you for the work.
     
  22. nifty
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    Very informative thread indeed, I wasn't willing to part with my dropped axle and it now looks like I don't have to. Cheers
     
  23. 296 V8
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    Thanks
    Hopefully this will help some people out if they can find it.


    Id love to buy an English wheel ;)
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2012
  24. moefuzz
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    Gets My vote!
    Thanks for posting...
     
  25. 296 V8
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    Thank you everyone that voted for this one.



    I guess next time it will need to be super duper basic … done with a rock and stick :rolleyes:
     
  26. Firepower71
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    this is awesome. another 'thanks!' but is there a reason (i'm sure there is) that you don't heat the axle when adjusting the camber?
     
  27. 296 V8
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    Look again
    I dont heat them
     
  28. lawman
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    Thank's,it's alway's good to learn something new !!!!
     
  29. Kevin Lee
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    Have you ever had to shrink the kingpin bore of a V8-60 axle? And what is your opinion on welding up the windows in the ends?
     
  30. 26 roadster
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    I like it, where is the dang like ****on!!!!!!!!!
     

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