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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 56 ford custom, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. 56 ford custom
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    I was almost positive this trans was the original for my 1960 f100. Some guys tell me it is then others say its not. I need to know what year it is roughtly also if it for sure is fordo or a later one. Also if its air or fluid cooled. I thought it was fluid cooled due to the newer style torque converter and the trans fluid lines going to the cooler on the side.

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    What is the hardline and brscket for?
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  2. 56 ford custom
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    I have more pics, anyone here able to post them for me? For some reason my phone wont allow me to.
     
  3. squirrel
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    Looks like a truck bell, since it has mounting ears.

    Also looks like an air cooled bell, since it has the cooling holes. But it looks like a liquid cooled converters, since it doesn't have fins. I dont know enough about them to help much...but my guess is they probably kept using the air cooled truck bell after they went to liquid cooling, since it would require retooling for a low production part, to make a truck bell without the cooling holes.

    I suppose I could mosey over to my neighbor's house and look at his 57 truck...it has the y block and auto trans in it still, I think
     
  4. 56 ford custom
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    Thank you squirrel, also look and see if it has a cooler mounted to the p***enger side of trans.
     
  5. Orange Crate
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    That looks like the ****** that came out of my old 56. It had the cooler on the side of the ****** but had the old style torque converter and flywheel.
     
  6. squirrel
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    Looks like the same trans, there's a water hose goes from the engine to the p*** side of the trans...but I can't see what's on that side, too many weeds and flat tires.
     
  7. 56 ford custom
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    Did you have the trans hooked up in your truck? What was the outter inlet hose hooked upto?
     
  8. Dzus
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    Is this your post over on the ford trucks web site?

    1957/63 Ford Truck Parts Catalog / Text, Section A70 ~ Automatic Transmission Tag Identification Guide ~ Page 3.

    PBW-F = 1960 Ford-O-Matic 3 Speed Transmission / Parts List A70.1.
     
  9. 56 ford custom
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    If the post is under my name (56 ford custom) then it was from me.
     
  10. 56 ford custom
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    Here are a few more pics:

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    What is the hard line that is sitting between the two plugs for?
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    I also found out that the thing on the side of the trans isnt really a cooler its more like a heat exchanger.
     
  11. squirrel
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    THe tube that goes nowhere is a vent for the case.

    The B9AP number means it's a 1959 design, it could be made in 1960, that would make sense.

    It appears the tailhousing does not have a mount, that also seems like it would be original for one of those trucks, since the bellhousing supports the transmission.
     
  12. 56 ford custom
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    Thanks squirrel, so the last pic and tube is clarified.

    Now how about the skinny line that is coming out towards the camera in pic #3? It has a bracket at the end that bolts to the drivers side head of the motor.

    So would this trans be considered air or fluid cooled? It does have an opening on the drivers side of bellhoising and a screen on the top of rear of bellhousing. Also the torque converter isnt finned.

    What I was told is that its not a "cooler" its a "heat exchanger" to get the trans at the right operating temperature.
     
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  13. squirrel
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    A cooler is a heat exchanger. It's just a different term for the same thing...instead of the heat exchanger being in the radiator, it's separate. The transmission is liquid cooled. You could run the trans lines up to a cooler that's built into the radiator, or an aftermarket cooler that sits in front of the radiator, it doesn't really matter.

    I dont know what the one on the driver side is. If you had a decent pic of where it attaches at the transmission, maybe we could figure it out?
     
  14. 56 ford custom
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    Those pics are al I have for right now. Anyone else know what it is? Somebody here has to knlw how this factory set up all goes together.
     
  15. squirrel
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    It could be the line to the vacuum modulator, which should be on the rear of the main case, on the driver side, near the bottom.
     
  16. 56 ford custom
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    Im pretty sure this trans doesnt have a modulator. That line drops and attaches to the housing at the front of trans.
     

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