FE motor to an AOD trans? is it possible?

So I have decided that I am going to put a 390 in my daily for some extra umph and got to thinking about transmissions, can I put an AOD behind an FE motor?

I thought they were different but a homey of mine brought up that he knew a dude that ran what he thought was a c4 behind a 428 that he drag raced because it was less rotating mass.

so can I?

 

The bolt pattern for the AOD and FE are different. There is a comnpany that makes adapters but real pricey. Why not put a 351W in it? Plenty of power and it works with the AOD.

 

thanks mercules64, 2 reasons, 1, I want it to look like the stock motor, which is an FE and 2, I can get a fresh 390 with a 2 year warranty for $950 from a local machine shop...

I cant really beat that with a stick...

Thanks again for the info and the suggestion though!

 

http://www.transmissionadapters.com/Pricing.htm

Ford FE to Small Block Ford (FE to AOD)​

352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427, 428 $ 850.00​

http://www.transmissionadapters.com/Ford_FE_to_AOD_install.htm

 

yikes! no lie thats expensive!!

but damn it would be rad!

 

i know a guy with a 700r4 behind a 390 ,worhs good,if ya dont mind some crossbreading.

 

What about a more fuel efficiant 302 0r 351w with FE valve cover adapters? Not many people would know the difference.

 

Put tall gears in it and call it close..... 1st gear works fine, 2nd lasts a long time and 3rd is like overdrive.

 

I like your way of thinking. Sorry guys, but throwing a Windsor block into any ford is, to me, like going the small block Chevy route.... C'mon, an FE is cool.

Bendtsens has the adaptor, it's pricey but by everything I have heard they flat out fit and are beautifully made. Just watch the torque on the 390, AODs aren't built, stock, to handle the power that a healthy 390 can throw at em. Might wanna consider getting a performance built AOD.

Oh, does he have any others for that price?

 

Jay at "Broader Performance" was working on one last time I was out there.
Sure wish I had gone AOD when I had the COM built.

 

Put a T-5 behind that FE. Thats what I did, workes fine, not too expensive and it you aren't drag racing it'll hold up to normal "show yer ass" operations.

 

Im running a 410 FE backed by a 3spd Merc-O-Matic and 3.00 gears and it does 70 just fine on the hwy!!

 

Could you? sure. Would I recommend it? nope.

Just go with a good C6. I put a C6 behind the 300 I6 in my work truck - after the jap 5 speed tossed it's counter gear around the inside of the case.

Best thing I ever did. 3 speeds and a stock converter behind that FE works fine.

By the time you add the 800 buck bellhousing, beef up /rebuild the AwfulOD you will be in this a bunch of scratch.

B

 

The way the adapter is made is to cut the front part off a C-6 case and the rear off an AOD bellhousing. Weld them together. That's how the C-4 was adapted to an FE for drag racing. I know how it was done because I saw the prototype bellhousing that the high dollar adapters were cast from.

 

Try Lentech Performance in Canada...all they do is AOD and they are the best transmissions I have ever used....they bandsaw the factory bellhousing off and then put an SFI approved unit in its place. Not cheap but not outrageous either.

 

if I had $800 to spend on an adaptor I would most likely just put a big splined 4spd in it for a little more...

I guess I'll run the c-6 until I get some more bread and can do a manual

oh and as for the valve covers, if I am going to run a 302, I'll run a 302.

I used to have a boss that had a sbc with Ardun valve covers and I always though by doing that he was admiting that he was ashamed of his engine and wanted to fool people?

fauxmobile valve covers are not for me, cause every time I see them there are still 4 exhaust ports under them...

thanks for all of the suggestions and knowledge guys!

 

Only the ones with a clue
I have an AOD laying around and a bellhousing idea, just haven't had time to try it yet

 

OK, sorry I posted, smash my ballsack why don't ya'.

 

I bought one of Jay's AOD kits. He uses the Cruis-O bellhousing and mates it to the pump of the AOD after machining the AOD bell off. The nice thing about the Broader performance kit is it can be a couple hundred dollars cheaper then paying to have someone rebuild an old AOD and buying the adaptor. Plus, the AOD fit really well into my '62 Monterey with just a minor tweak to the cross member.

http://www.broaderperformance.com/en/



Not the best pic, but you get an idea of the AOD bolted to the FE.


Good Luck

 

Ultra Bell. You can fit an AOD to most Ford engines, assuming they make one for the FE. Fairly reasonable price.

 

I have a 428 CJ/C6 and I use it for cruising mostly, I put a set of 2:80 gears in my 9" and it cruises great and isn't too bad on fuel(we run the Hot Rod Power Tour), 2:80's were tipically in T-birds and Lincolns only, you will need to grind the 9" case just a little go clear the ring gear, it is 9 3/8", took some off the bottom end but got a top end out of this world.

 

That's what I had in mind, as I have a couple extra Cruisos and been staring at them and the AOD for a while. And I've had a half-dozen "experts" pointedly tell me it won't work, stupid idea, can't be done etc.

 

The 4R70W can handle a good bit more power than the AOD in stock form, and can be had with Windsor bolt pattern. Yes, it's electronic, but there are standalone controllers that you can use. (You know, since you are going wild here.) So if you grab a used Mustang 4R70W for, say, $250, you can spend some of your savings on the controller.

 

We have the JPT AOD to FE bell housings in stock.

 

Where can I get headers like that?!?!

 

breathe...

 

FPA - Makers of some of the nicest FE headers around. They have headers for just about every application and engine swap.

Nothing worse then "experts". The biggest hurdle is that the Cruise-O bellhousing limits the size of the torque convertor. I think 11" is about the biggest that can fit. Not a big deal if you want a high stall, but for a highway cruiser that could be less then ideal.

 

Why would an 11" torque converter be less than ideal for hiway?

pardon my ignorance but I know nothing about automatics.

 

With the right guy building the converter, a lot of things are possible.

The AOD has a lockup feature in 3rd and 4th that improves mileage a bit.

Some examples of variations that will fit an AOD:
http://www.dirtydogperformance.com/converters/ford/aod/cat_4.html

 

wow... you think you know nothing about an automatic and then some one starts talking about lock up features...

I apparently have some home work to do