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Best option, rebuild my cadillac 429, or 472?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by DiegosAnotherR1, Mar 12, 2012.

  1. DiegosAnotherR1
    Joined: Apr 22, 2010
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    DiegosAnotherR1
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    from San Diego

    I have a 66 cadillac deville, and I plan to have the stock 429 engine and trans rebuilt this year. It runs, but it is starting to knock alittle bit. Also the ****** is leaking a little fluid. I have a guy selling a 1968 472 motor and trans for $350. He says it is good and was running when pulled out(but thats just what he said).
    Would it be a better option to rebuild my stock 429 engine and trans, or should I buy this 472 and trans and have that rebuilt and thrown into my car instead? I hear around that parts are more steadly available for the 472. The image is of the 472 and trans that is forsale.
     

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  2. FEDER
    Joined: Jan 5, 2003
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    I would stick with the 429. They are really good motors and get decent milage. You wont have to change anything either. The 429 has shaft rockers whitch is a big plus over the 472. If the 472 is a later one it could be low compression smog motor. Im a big fan of the 429. there arent many aftermarket speed parts for them,but in stock form they have plenty of torque.Itl cruise that caddy at 100 all day long.
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  3. william.ali.kay
    Joined: Nov 20, 2009
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    william.ali.kay
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    from Milwaukee

    Id buy a complete running 472 with ****** for 350.oo all day.


    As for what you should do, thats harder to say.
    "Knock a little bit" and "****** leaking a little fluid" doesnt automatically mean they need a rebuild in my book.

    Have you verified you need a complete rebuild on the 429 by any other means? Comperssion test, leak down test? Anything like that? And where is your ****** leaking from that make you feel it needs a rebuild?

    Id try to keep the 429 in there if I could.
     
  4. Kenny DFW
    Joined: Jan 7, 2009
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    pretty good thread on here already (but this is NOT one of those common HAMBer "do a search you FNG ***** replies!) :)

    .....so many more parts available for the 472/500.

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119269

    Were they using the TH400 already by 66? If not, throw that hydramatic off a bridge and get an adapter plate!
     
  5. DiegosAnotherR1
    Joined: Apr 22, 2010
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    DiegosAnotherR1
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    from San Diego

    To be honest, I don't really know much about mechanical work. The engine runs, and I can cruise all day at 80mph on the freeway no problem. It has a knocking noise, and I'm not too sure what it is comming from. Maybe I just need a tune up? I'm not too sure about the trans either, lol. It shifts smooth and everything, it just leaves red fluids on the floor where ever its park. I just figured I have everything rebuilt so I know its all new, then just keep up with mantenice from there.

    I saw the 472 forsale for $350, so I was just wondering if I should of jumped on it.
     
  6. rramjet
    Joined: Dec 30, 2009
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    Had a 67 Deville Convert with a tired 429. Loved the styling of the car. Just wished I had found a 68 instead. They look identical but have the 472. Was planning on a transplant to a 472/500 but sold the car first. Too many one of issues with the 429 and no real performance options. Oil pumps are one example.
     
  7. terryble
    Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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    terryble
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    from canada

    After putting three 429s (one a factory drop in) in my 65 Caddy convertable I decided to go to a 472. If memory serves me I positioned the ****** on the mount and drilled a couple of holes in the crossmember, took off the thermostatic fan, put on an appropriate fan spacer with flex fan. That was in 1995 and it still runs great.
     

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