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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ref_n101, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. ref_n101
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    I'm trying to get some ideas for an engine swap for a 1936 Plymouth. Anyone have any ideas about putting a 400ci or 440ci in this car and what problems I might have with the conversion?
     
  2. MERCURYGUY
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    Try Ch***is Engineering West Branch Iowa. I know they have mounts for 34-35 Dodge and Plymouths. tech line is 319-643-2655 Good Luck on your project TOm
     
  3. George
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    A small block 318/360 would be an easier fit, but it can be done! Or an older "A" Poly 318.
     
  4. 73RR
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  5. ref_n101
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    Thanks guys. I'm going to stick with the 318 I found and just turn it into a monster. Also, would you suggest going with FatMan Fab or JW Rod Garage for the front end conversion and other parts?
     
  6. 73RR
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    A 'monster' 318 will make about the same power as a bone stock 400-440 and cost about 3x as much...just sayin'.

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  7. Weasel
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    How about a Plymouth or Dodge poly from 1955-56 - cool and different....

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  8. Biggest problem will be the oil filter/oil pump.
     
  9. Ole don
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    Slant six with a turbo.
     
  10. 36DodgeRam
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    This 331 Chrysler fit right into my '36 Dodge, no cutting to the frame or firewall. Stock springs & axle. I did have to notch the fenders a little to get them back on. Probably not as strong as a 440, but sure to beat a 318!
     

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  11. George
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    Need a wide bay....
     
  12. ref_n101
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    Well I don't want to have to alter the look of the car with too big of an engine. It might be somewhat of an expensive rebuild to beef it up but I just want to have a good engine that fits inside the engine bay. I want to turn my car into a sleeper hot rod.
     
  13. bbrroowwnn
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    Build a stroker 360.....
     
  14. Kerrynzl
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    Keep it Chrysler and keep it a 6 cyl

    Dodge Ram 5.8 diesel would be fun :D
     
  15. Fugly Too
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    The 4.0 inline Jeep six is a torque monster and would keep it all Mopar. It's already fuel injected, has dress up and speed parts available, is fairly easy to find, and next to a slant six, about bulletproof.:D
     

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  16. 73RR
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    Yup, an excellent engine as is the 4.7 v-8. Both are amazingly powerful considering the displacement, the big problem for some of us 'old' guys is that damned computer **** to make 'em run...
    If the OP has an interest he might want to take a Cherokee or a Durango for a short drive.

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  17. hkestes
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    How about sticking with the flathead? It fits inside the engine bay, it is a good engine, and can be pretty cool as well. You can go from your stock 201 cu in to a later 230 cu in as a direct bolt in.
     

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  18. Weasel
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    Yep - a hop up on a later 230 with speed equipment from Earl Edgerton, a T5 trans and rear end swap, brake upgrade and you're good to go....

    www.edgyspeedshop.com

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  19. bohica2xo
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    Actually a Slant Six fits anyplace a 273 / 318 V8 does. The down side of the slant is the lack of great high performance parts on the shelf. If you want to make a few parts they can be great engines.

    The 4.0 I6 can be run as a carb engine. Tough unit, but hardly a "monster"

    You say you already have a 318? Start there. A stock 318, with a T72 turbo at 10 psi will really open your eyes. Just a simple, old school draw through carb setup. Total sleeper. No lumpy idle. Quiet. Power when you want it. A .68 A/R on the hot side will see 5 psi by 2700 rpm. You can go all the way to 15 psi with that unit if you want to.

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