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46" vs 47" front axles

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  1. rcnut223
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    I am looking to purchase a forged front axle for my 32 coupe project and need some help.

    I see that both 46 and 47 inch king pin centers are offered in many brands.

    I am running Buick drums on 37-40 spindles .

    which axle size should I selected and why?

    Thanks
    Mike
     
  2. rrthiv
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    I'm running a 46" on the '33 but it's full fendered with 205/75r15 tires...
     
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  3. Don's Hot Rods
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    The stock axles were something like 50" wide, as I remember, but the aftermarket ones usually come in 46-48" widths. Mostly because we lower our cars and the narrower axle lets the tires tuck under without rubbing the fenders. Also, when a stock axle is dropped that process can narrow the width unless the axle is stretched back.

    46 is a little narrow, but I ran one on my 23 and it was ok, but a 48 incher is slightly better as it gives an extra inch of tread width and some additional tire room on hard turns. I would suggest you get the 48 inch one if you have a choice.

    Don
     
  4. rcnut223
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    I see so cal ch***is engineering and lucky 7 offer 47

    Don't see 48

    Thanks

    Mike
     
  5. Deuce Roadster
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    I believe I would go with the 46 inch axle.
    Especially if the Buick drums are on the outside of the Ford hub. The drum would add to the width. :D
     
  6. Don's Hot Rods
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    Here is a picture of my 46 inch axle with Buick drums, for some perspective:

    Don

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    And this one is 48 inches wide:

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    Cool little car Don.
     
  9. belle
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    what you plan on using for wheels/tires and their offset is one thing to consider when selecting the axle width. if you will have fenders or not is another
     
  10. Don's Hot Rods
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    Thanks Steve, it looked cooler when I took your Sue for a cruise in it. :D I just got to see it again a Billetproof, and the new owner is taking very good care of it.

    Don
     
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    Love that black and copper T!!
     
  12. rcnut223
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    fronts will be Stock 40 ford wheels and cokers.

    want to be able to use fenders some day ...things change , don't want to be locked into this forever.
     
  13. 46" are more commnly used with Disc Brakes and 47 with Drum Brakes on 32 to 34 Fords.
     
  14. rcnut223
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    would buick drum setup be wider than the stock setup since they use 46-48 hubs?
     
  15. Retroline
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    I think if you want a forged axle then 47" is your choice unless you drop a stock axle. 46" and 48" are usually cast axles
     
  16. Retroline
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    narrow axle for fendered car and wide axle for hiboy.
     
  17. Not on my car, I run Lincoln backing plates, 47 Hubs with Buick Drums, and the hubs are on the outside of the drums.
     
  18. rcnut223
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    well would 47 be the concensus then? Iam not willing to run a cast axle.
     

  19. I didn't know that anyone was still selling a cast axle. Live and learn I guess.

    If it was my car and I was running fenderless I would prefer the wider axle. I like a wider front track width as a rule for stability at speed. granted it I was building a narrow car like a bucket T the narrower axle would work as well because the rear track width would not be as wide.
     
  20. When I ordered my axle from Posies the first thing he asked me was if I was running fenders or was it a Hi- Boy. I said fenders and he said 46" is what you want, if it was me and you want fenders some day I'd go with the 46". Mine is a Model A.
     
  21. rcnut223
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    I understand that superbell's axles are cast not forged.
     
  22. My axle was narrow, a jeep axle, but I changed it to a wider 1956 ford pickup axle. As I changed from a recirculating ball box to rack and pinion steering when I changed the axle It is not possible to say where the improvement came from, but it steers lighter, faster and more positively. I cut 1.5" out of the axle's length so the spring pads ended up the same but it is still wider than the previous axle.
     
  23. rcnut223
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    Thans everyone for the imput. I went with 46, I figure someday I stick fenders on it.
     
  24. Retroline
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    Original ,Ch***is Engineering, So Cal and some lesser known brands are forged axles. Your Magnum and Super Bells are cast.
     

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