Hot Rods Halibrand V8 Quick Change Bearing Numbers?

Anybody know the numbers for all the bearings needed for a Halibrand quick change?

I have what is basically an empty V8 center section, and need to assemble it. I see that Speedway and Hot Rod Works both sell the bearings, and I may just order from one of them...but I want to make sure that I'm not overpaying for some simple bearings that I can get at the local bearing house.

So does anyone have a list of bearing numbers needed to assemble a V8 quick change?

Also, what sort of machinework is needed to adapt an original Ford pinion to work with the Halibrand rear cover bearing?

 

i've messed with a few . a V-8 quickchange does not use a stock ford pinion....an original ford pinion needs the have the OD of the shaft where the two big bearings go precision ground down..i don't believe the part that sticks into the cover bearing needs anything ( it's been awhile . i could be wrong on that part)

 

Huh...I was just going off of what the Hot Rod Works website says under the Rodsville quickchanges: Requires the use of early Ford ring and pinion. The pinion gear must be machined to fit rear cover bearing.

However, you may be right that the OD of the shaft will need to be ground down. I have a feeling that it won't turn down on the lathe all that great, being hardened.

I'm just not sure what all needs to be done to make the Ford pinion work either, so maybe someone here has done it and can fill us in.

 

i have done it , the pinion need to be precision ground to fit the bearings, i cannot remember the size , it's been 20 years . you are right , not a job for a lathe..at the time i had access to the correct equipment . i must have done it right because the car is still live and well

 

I'm pretty sure the pinion bearing diameter is right on original ford pinions.The end of the splines needs to be ground to a snout to fit bearings in rear cover.

 

I belive that is the ticket, might be doing that soon myself

 

FWIW-I doubt any of this is still relevent or usefull, but it might help.

 

BTTT...I still could use the bearing numbers. Surely someone on here has a V8 quick change apart that could write down the bearing numbers.

Thanks for all the help so far...

 

Brian, refering to the above diagram and parts list, all of the ball brgs should be off the shelf bearing house items. C- 6212ZZ, 8- 6306ZZ, 9- 6206ZZ, 13- 6304ZZ, 20- 6307ZZ, 23- 6307ZZ, 25- 6205ZZ. FYI the ZZ refers to the side shield, both being metal. RS means rubber seal. You can also get them compleaty open, (which what you would want for a gear case application), but you have to ask if they carry the brgs that way, most don and just tell you to pop out the sheild before installing.
Hope that helps, Greg.

 

According to Hot Rod Works...There are both roller ball and tapered roller bearing kits for v8 qc's, depending on what your qc case takes. In Rootie's diagram, it shows ball rollers, which may be for all Halibrands, especially early cases. These require the bearing land of the stock pinion be ground down to fit the bearings, as well as having the end of the pinion splines ground to fit the bearing in the rear cover. The nominal change required in the bearing land is from 1.5(stock Ford bearing) to 1.375 to fit the 6307 ball roller shown in the diagram. If your case is made for tapered roller pinion bearings(stock Ford), then you only need to grind the end of the pinion splines to fit the rear cover bearing. Just a heads up to check the pinion bearing bore size in your qc case before you buy a set of bearings or a new ring and pinion set.

 

Thanks for the advice, but i hope in the last 4 years he got it togather...

 

I know this isnt any help for you....On my halibrand 101....I bought all the bearings for under $100.00 at local bearing supply.....

 

Shaggy,
Thanx for pointing this out. I was just about to give a detailed description of the work involved to convert the case to a full roller bearing set-up.

I am in the process of putting as much of this info into a book as possible. It's not all that hard but there is a lot of detail to deal with.

Bruce

 

Anyone have a source for the spacers for the pinion? Looks like there is one between the gear and first bearing, 2 between the bearings, and one between the pinion nut and the qc gear. Does anyone know about the 3 spacer kit that Speedy Bill sells?

 

I work at a Mack dealership and got all mine thru work at dealer cost.They are all SKF.I just did mine.their #`s are 6304J for rear cover bearings,6206J for front bearing,6306J for rear of bottom shaft, BR25522 for carrier races,and BR25578 for carrier bearings.The front pinion is the 6205 but you have machine pinion to fit.I reused all my pinion bearings.They were good.When I cut the pinion to fit the rear cover bearing I measured the depth that the pinion would sit in the case and used a cut off wheel to grind the splines down even with the shaft.Chucked it in a lathe and cut it to fit bearing bore.I used the little lathe at work and it had no problem cutting it.Some of these bearings are available at rock auto.Believe they were SKF too.