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That's another way. It might be quite appealing with a conventional front end with a radiator or dummy radiator, and lights and an axle, etc. It'd have the same sort of appealing stocky/svelte juxtapositioning that Rover P5s and Boston terriers have. Looks like a suitcase lock to me, with a sliding keyhole bezel that releases a tang that springs open hitting the knuckle of one's thumb rather painfully. You know the type.
Amilcar CGSS.This one has some hand painted cartoons on the rear along with some text.You just can't see it in this view. Vintage Revival Montlhery image.
From Dale's Mochet link: 1948 Mochet with 125cc engine. Very interesting body geometries. Here is a '49:
Voisin's "cocotte" is never far from my mind when I'm sketching in a Vintage context But I've got a simple flat radiator in mind here, with none of the Voisin/Bentley/Lagonda "beak" to it. I see this with a 600cc liquid-cooled sport bike engine turned north-south, with the drive shaft running under the occupants' right elbows.
"Light" cyclecars are all about chains (not to mention cables and bobbins), but Amilcars? Salmsons? GN kept their chains as they grew up, but by the time Frazer-Nashes emerged, no longer cyclecars by any means, the chains were a marque-specific quirk rather than a typical cyclecar feature.
A "marque-specfic quirk' perhaps, but if considering building a cyclecar, the F-N system should be considered. It's advantages are easy ratio alteration, and lightning quick clutchless shifts. The only downsides that I can see are periodic chain (and ultimately sprocket replacement--but how many miles are you going to drive the thing?) and the space that it takes up. If you ever drove a F-N, you would fall in love with the principle! Herb
I'm definitely designing under the chain principle on my project, for the reasons that ebtm3 names above. Great sig, by the way, I really want to steal it for use in daily life. But yes, the ease of ratio changes and pure simplicity of the system bends me in that direction. I plan to use a spring loaded chain tensioner to avoid all of those adjustment needs, with a little br*** indicator to let you know when it is headed for the end if its travel. At which point you can just remove a link to bring it back into spec while sourcing your new chain. I suppose you could also just remove links until something breaks, but I imagine the sprockets would wear out quickly after the first couple rounds of that. The Landskiff really has me thinking. If I can get the designs past DMV as a motor vehicle, I think I'd upscale it just a hair (I'm wanting a 2-seat tandem) to something in the Bedelia/Oh-We-Go/Twombly size range and use the air-cooled 500cc I have sitting on the bench out back with either a false radiator or slots cut into the nose. Entry and exit from the right side with all the plumbing (pipes, chains, etc) running down the left. I wish I could draw what is in my head.
Maybe we should get together and develop a set of molds or bucks for the body,find some easily sourced parts for the engine,trans ,and suspension and sell a kit?
Found this photo in the September 1937 issue of MOTOR AGE magazine, caption reads. "Rolls His Own C.Elverson, of New England, and his brother built this interesting and unique car to their own design. It is driven by a motorcycle engine mounted at the rear. The photo isn't fliped, plate reads correctly, it is right hand drive, may have started life an an inported sports car. Bob
'37 or anyone else that goes to Oley AMCA show. Do you remember the cyclecar about 6 or 8 years ago, white and blue, flathead HD engine in the p***enger compartment, p***enger had to kick start it? I've got to find a picture of it. The driver was the best part, leather for skin, looked to be about 75 lbs, and years old. It was parked in the middle by the flag pole.
If we could get an order list like the one for the new "Morgan" trike and sell it at around $55,000 US then the answer is ASAP..... I need some gainful employment just now ;-) I have no objections to moving to Alaska...
I like that a lot - the roof looks like it has been done aircraft style with doped fabric over a wire frame.
Yes, that is what I thought, any idea what the body may be? It has an English Riley/MG look to it. Predates the VW look too. Bob
The body seems scratch-built. Although the geometry is quite complex there are no compound curves except in the fenders. The fenders look like the "Gothic arch section" type first used by British coachbuilders in the early '30s and picked up by Ford in 1936, though these are weird enough that one would expect to know a m***-produced car that used them. But the front and rear fenders look to be the same. The rear-mounted motorcycle engine somehow spoils this car for me. It would have been fascinating had it been conventional in its basic pattern and quirky in its details, the way Voisins and Bugattis, and Dubonnet's Hispano, and even early Franklins are fascinating.
Jonh Sheely and his 1935 MX-4 Morgan Super Sports with Admiral Scott Ebert and his 1924 Bugatti Type 35.John Sheely image
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