Upside down ??

for the rebuilders . when your upside down (as in changing pan gaskets in the car) , what type of stuff do you use to hold the pan gaskets to the block while your trying to put the pan up ?? i cant glue them to the pan as the pan rails have to go under the end gaskets . thanks for any info ........... steve

 

rtv,formagasket, silicone

 

Ados , F2 . Glue em to the block





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I'd be careful with silicone if your pan gasket is cork as that can push the gasket out. If your using a cork gasket I'd recommend http://www.amazon.com/Permatex-2053...LOG6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1336421012&sr=8-2 good stuff there.

 

Ados , F2 . .... ??? what is it ??

tried silicone but messy & doesnt set fast enuff .
there is a permatex item (cant remember) that works perfect .

 

RTV...put it on thin, and let it set up a little bit. I've never had a problem with it!

 

does the "indian head" set up quick ?

 

Silicone has a bad habit of making any kind of gasket squirt out from where it should be.

 

It's a contact adhesive , get the aerosol one not the tube type .




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Edit : I just did a google and it appears it may be a New Zealand only brand . Go see an Upholstery buddy , they will use spray on Contact glue . Use it sparingly - just a thin coat on gasket and block , let it "tack up" and then position gaskets . Leave the pan side clean/dry .


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i have used silicone since it came out . good stuff when used correctly . but it lets the gasket fall unless you wait awhile . im not to good at waiting .......... thanks

 

3M yellow weatherstrip cement in a very fine line. If you can see it when the part is installed, you used too much.

 

4T6 , thank you . if your avatar is your car , im jealous !!

 

Permatex makes a product called " the right stuff" and they are not kidding when they named it... Comes in an aerosol or tube for the caulking gun.

 

I saved four of those blue plastic studs that come in some FelPro gasket sets and use them whenever I am putting on a pan gasket. They are 5/16 course thread and fit most blocks. You simply screw them in on four corners of the block, slide the gasket over, and then the pan, and put some bolts in the remaining holes. After that you remove the plastic studs and put in the four remaining bolts.

I've also become a big fan of the blue reusable rubber pan gaskets. They take no sealant and I have never had a drop of oil seep out since I have begun using them. They also eliminate the need to s****e old sealant off if you drop the pan in the future.

Here is the gasket type I am currently using, and those four alignment studs make it a cinch to install the pan and gasket while standing on your head. They also feature metal rings around each bolt hole so you can't overtorque the pan bolts.



Don

 

I use 3M heavy duty spray addhisive, on clean dry surface..Works like a champ....

 

Yup, aka Gorilla Snot. It doesn't take much at all to retain the gasket, I've used it for years.

Bob

 

It can be tough to get off later but a thin layer of 3M trim adheisive(monkey snot) does a good job. Put a thin bead on both surfaces let them sit for a few minutes before putting the gasket on the engine and the gasket will stick. Silly cone works too but you only need a very thin layer and it take a bit longer to set up...but it is usually easier to clean off. Like the rest of the guys point out that if you use too much silly cone and you don't let it set up, the gasket can slide around....I have also used and prefer it when I am building an engine on a stand permatex brush on aircraft sealant. The set up time on it takes a while before a gasket will stick to the bottom of the engine, if you are in hurry don't use it ...your results may vary.

 

Permatex "Hi-Tack" - sticky red sealant, brushes on and tacks up quickly. Available in most parts stores. Impervious to gas and oil.

 

Permatex "Hi-Tack" - sticky red sealant . what is the part # ??

 

Very tacky in about 5 minutes. Enough time to get your gasket in place. "right stuff" was also mentioned. Works awesome instead of a gasket. It was and is used by many manufacturers as OEM.

Indian Head = Old School OEM
Right Stuff = New School OEM

 

Thanks , not mine - I did a frame up rebuild on it for the owner who is a good friend. Runs Desoto Hemi , 4 speed Toploader and early ford rear . More pics in my albums .

The 3m Contact / trim adhesive mentioned in posts below sounds the same as
the F2 Ados .





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apparently they do not sell Ados , F2 to the usa ...............

 

Gaskachinch(SP) used t be used as a shoe maker's cement. Now one of the cam makers sells it as a gasket glue. Really good stuff for holding stuff in place. And the contact cement for Formica works very well, too.

 

3m general trim adhesive , clean the block with lac. thinner .

 

Just did the pan in my 57. Permatex that stays just sticky works well. I don't remember what it's called, ask the parts house. Been on the market for years.

 

YES, I'm no engine expert but have some experience eating glue.

Also to everyone that said rtv.... Permatex "Right Stuff" is the way to go. RTV is not the best choice for oil and gasoline.

 

Permatex Hi-Tack, part #98H for a 4 OZ can, 98D for a 16 OZ. Can also get it in a spray can, 99GA for 6 OZ, 99MA for 12 OZ.

I use a lot of the Permatex Aviation Form-A-Gasket, stays pliable, works well.

 

This is 3M part #8001...yellow **** #8003 is black

 

i used alot of Gaskachinch on my dirt bikes . yes it works well .

thank you ALL for the ideas . will try them soon .......... thank you again .. steve

 

hi-tac also comes in a tube its good stuff sticks quick