Came across a gl*** T bucket with a 1967/8 427 side oiler......anyone got an idea of what the motor is worth. its rebuilt with less than 1000 miles and all dressed out. thinking about getting the car for the motor and trans then selling the T bucket as a roller.....car is complete and in great cond, just would need a new eng and trans if i take out the 427 for another project. any thoughts on the value of the car with and without the engine?
I don't think most people would even attempt to make an appraisal of the engine or the T unless a lot more information was provided. Regarding the engine, one would need to verify that it is in fact a 427. One easy way to determine if the block is one of the FoMoCo performance versions is to visually check for the crossbolting above the pan rail and the screw in "freeze plugs" but that only verifys that it is a performance FE and not necessarily a 427. Do some research to identify block markings but casting numbers DO NOT positively ID the cubic inches of the FE group of engines. There is a way to measure the stroke to make a determination without pulling a head but the best way to know cubic inches is to pull a head and measure the bore. Also, what heads and intake are installed? Those components make a huge difference as to the value of these engines. I would also want to know who overhauled the engine. FE engines are not the easiest engines to overhaul and many have been ***embled incorrectly by people not familiar with the engine. Theres tons of info on the 427 FE online along with engines built by reputable rebuilders, which would give you a good idea of the value. There are many variables that come into play to make a determination of value for a "427 side oiler". IF this engine happens to be one, a positive ID of the shortblock, heads, intake, camshaft, valvetrain, would need to be established to determine value. And, as far as the T goes, the same thing applies, i.e. ch***is, suspension, craftsmanship, would all have an impact on value. You haven't provided enough info for anyone to make an educated determination of value. Pictures would be a great place to start. BOutlaw
Probably not representative but the last one I saw for sale here was 10K. He got his asking price and no one knew how many miles it had on it.
I think the side oiler was a solid lifter motor only. I am not sure, but it may be something to consider.
From my experience so far ( I am no expert) all pre 1968 427 ford blocks are are solid lifter only. the production 1968 cougar 427 has hydraulic lifter gallerys as well as the 68 and later service blocks I have a NOS 1968 style side oiler block stashed that was cast in 1973 it will accept hydraulic lifters. The most valuable blocks are earlier non hydraulic side oiler that have never been bored sleeved or repaired and the really expensive engines have their original matching carbs, distributer ,fuel pump, fuel filters, linkage ,dampner pulleys manifolds ect. A never blown complete original side oiler will bring whatever the seller asks price is of little concern to some body who wants one. A not so compete medium riser with a GOOD block 8 to 10 grand is my guess
If it has what is refered to as the 7 thousand RPM con rods. You can NOT reuse the rod bolts. One streach then throw them away,, Some one that is not familar with FE ford edsel engines will try to reuse these rod bolts. If they do its bad news........... Many years ago I used these engines in my circle track cars... Check and see if the seller has the cast iron headers. The HP ones for a FE are much larger than a stock set. Restores love and want them ....... I sold a pair off a 427 for 8 hundred and the buyer said I was to low on my price.
Your post reminds me of the opening scene in the movie "Red Line 7000" 427 64 Galaxie stocker humming along at 7000, then up to 7200 and bam! Into the wall.
I doubt you will find a good 427 NOS sideoiler block for less then what you can purchase a new BBM iron block. Unless you are really hung up on matching numbers, I would be looking at the new block.
Check the dates. Bit of an old thread brought up by a guy looking for a NOS side oiler Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
BrooklynRod - guess you are on wrong side of country - Ford 427 Block ( side oiler)/ $2300/Campbell (California) - craigslist - SF Bay Area >South Bay > for sale > auto parts > by owner
I seen that on Craigslist. Is it too good to be real I would be cautious at .40 over I know 2 people that bought side oilers over 10 years ago and paid big money for OE unused block,crank and Le Mans rods.
It is only $2300 because it is already .040" over. That is pushing the limits (actually damned near beyond) on a OE 427. I wouldn't even think about buying that with out a sonic check of the walls. Ford tooled up the 428 because the 427 was too damned expensive to produce. Between the casting line fallout from core shifts and inclusions in the thin walls to the tight machining tolerances, there was no way they could m*** produce them in the quan***ies the public wanted and still make money. So Henry II sold us a stroked 406 instead (428)..... Most shops charge $150 to $200 + the cost of the sleeve to sleeve a cylinder. Factor that into the $2300 and plan on doing all 8, and the BBM or Genesis block starts looking real cheap by comparison.
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