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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by SamIyam, Jul 19, 2005.

  1. [​IMG] my r/pu has radials made to look like bias plys theye are made by michelin realy nice
     
  2. DrJ
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    I thought only WalMart had that kind of wholesale power... :mad:

    Whatever happened to free enterprise and fair market values? :(

    Guess I'll walk over to PepBoys and see what they have in an 80 series light truck tire... not that I need tires at the moment... :cool:


    Slazzen, PLEASE! make that picture only screen size!
     
  3. DrJ
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    Thanks for the what up.
    I'll check with them direct when the time comes, (or maybe with PsychoDaemon?)
    Are the Sams and Cooper in KC?

    Hey I have relatives in UK, Australia and Tahiti (French, isn't it?) maybe I should do some family networking... ;)
     
  4. There are Sam's Clubs everywhere. they're ownd by walmart or the other way around.

    But there are both in KC. If ya gotta get 'em here I'll get to ya don't sweat it.
    They don't have cooper tires in S Cal? Maybe its a mid-west, N West. south thing. I like coopers, cheap and durable.
     
  5. **** Sam, that's is weird.

    I saw that exact car this past weekend at Goodguys, looked at the tire size, wrote it down, and then threw the paper away because I didn't like the way the fronts looked. The rears looked nice and I was really impressed.
     
  6. I just put new Bias on my roadster-6.50 truck tires on rear and Harleys on the front-Ill never have another car with Bias tires-Ijust don tcare-It ****s...the handling difference is huge
     
  7. DrJ
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    Yea, there's 9 stores carry Cooper Tires within 10 miles of me. One is where IgoPogo got his bias tractor rib tires, just the other side of the local airport from me. (I can walk to the airport) I'll check there when the time comes, thanks.

    I've got a Krispy Kreme and soon-to-open Frisco's Diner at one end of my block and a Firestone dealer and a VW,Audi,Porsche dealer at the other end, across Highway 19 from AutoZone, and PepBoys is only three blocks away on Pacific Coast Highway.
    Shopping really ****s here in Paradise...and it's only 73º degrees outside.. no Hurricanes, no shaking earth in a while. life is good! :)
     
  8. SimonSez
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    Sounds like Coker is your best bet.

    I got mine from the local tyre shop, but they had to order them in. They were $340 the pair (about $230 US). Probably not enough difference from the Coker price to bother bringing some in yourself.


     
  9. Boones
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    Sam, I am not sure who took that pic, but he sure has a good eye for nice looking cars.............. that car is super cool...
     
  10. duallies run 16.5" wheels.
     
  11. touchdowntodd
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    for me, they just dont look right... then again, i am biased, as i will only run bias plys on my cars.... radials have their advantages and disadvatages.... for me, they just dont look right.....
     
  12. InjectorTim
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    Those are the best radials i have seen, yet, but i still have a soft spot for bias plies.
     
  13. Roothawg
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    Here's one I found. Sand off the lettering.....
     

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  14. zonkola
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    It's not too hard to find radials that look decent on the back of a hot rod. Light truck 215/85R16's are about the right size and come in a bunch of tread patterns that would probably work OK. Some examples:

    (Shown for tread pattern only, these aren't necessarily 215/85R16's)

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    (Michelin LTX, XPS, and Bridgestone R265, R230 respectively)

    A lot of commercial truck radials marked "HT" or "highway tread" actually look very similar to bias plys, but you need to watch the speed ratings on those. I was pretty jazzed about one particular tire until I found out it was rated for a top speed of 81mph.

    Front tires are a different story. The red model A at the top of this post is running 165R15 Dayton tires. I know this because they're the best-looking tall and skinny front radials I could find too, and that ain't saying much. Now if someone made a 165R16 with a decent tread pattern...
     
  15. av8
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    This is a typical tall and narrow light-truck radial. It's an LT215/85R-16. It's 31 inches tall, has a 6-inch-wide tread and a 7-inch wide body, and is mounted here on a Ford 5 x 16-inch light-truck wheel.

    They run $50.00-$75.00 each at most tire discounters, depending on the recognizeablility of the brand.

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  16. hillbillyhell
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    OK, here's the problem with all that. 16" truck tires, in the sizes we'd be interrested in, are all 8 or 10 ply. And weigh about 100 lbs each.... Why would we want that?
     
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  18. zonkola
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    215/85R16's weigh about 40-45lbs each. This is my roadster ch***is with a wheel and tire setup almost identical to the one AV8 describes above, but if I remember correctly I went with 6" wide wheels in the rear based on the tire manufacturer's minimum rim size specs. (You can also see the 165R15 Daytons that I'm not as thrilled with in front.)

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  19. av8
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    You're way off on the weight of light-truck radials. The tire and wheel combination shown in my post above weighs 55 pounds.
     
  20. loogy
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    What about these for the fronts? They come in a 155r15 (25" tall). They also offer a 215/70r15 that could be used on the rear, but it seems just a bit on the short side at 26.65" tall.

    They are Avon street legal race tires call the CR6ZZ. It has an H rating, but I'm not sure how hard of a compound they have.
     

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  22. Chuck R
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    215/85/16 rear
    155/15 front
    I wish I had put 165's on the front, but I am very happy with the ride and handling. I do have cars with bias plys and there is a difference.
    chuck
     

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  23. zonkola
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    Chuck, you really don't have enough nice hot rods. You should work on that.
     
  24. Yea, my buddy Fred took that picture at some hot rod and custom show up North.

    Sam.
     
  25. hillbillyhell
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    Eh, yeah, I know I was exaggerating (I manage a Firestone store, I've lifted one once :D ) but my point remains the same. I've actually considered doing something like this a lot of times, especially with a buffed bare sidewall, but I just can't get past the weight and the carc*** stiffness of the tire. With no more than a traditional car weighs, even at 25 or 30 PSI, seems like these things would beat you all over the road. Not saying anyone is wrong for doing it or anything, just saying I think tires are the one area where I'll continue to pay a 1-800 company :)
     
  26. Boones
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    Some great info here on tire options, I plan to run a set of blackwall radials on my sedan for the longer trips (I currently have ww bias on chrome reverse rims). I want to get a set of painted wires or halibrand styled wheels to use with the radials.
     
  27. jasonrmorrow
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  28. heyitsnate
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    my truck in the pic slazzen posted had radials.they handled like **** ,looked like ****, and were a ***** to steer.i run bias plys on my roadster and the ch***is and steering are set up correctly,and the thing handles *****in'. also straight-axles have a factory camber designed for bias plys,NOT radials.also the quality of new bias ply rubber is fantastic.i guess it depends what you're going for.i look at that car,and although i don't hate the tires, i think that bias plys would make that whip a RULER....but as it is i'd probably walk right by it and think to myself "what a shame"....
     
  29. brandon
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    i have been kicking the idea around to switch to some bias to change the car up some ......tried a set for a day ...and removed them the next......the car didn't handle as good ....and didn't ride as good.....granted ....i don't live in detroit....but the roads by my house aren't the greatest....i would guess the biggest deal would be getting some rake in the tires ...and fitting them to the car and the wheel wells...but i think the 165's are a tad big ....brandon
     

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  30. 286merc
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    Factory Dualies havent used 16.5's in about 15 years. The most common size on box trucks is 215x85R16; available up to 8 ply. F350 cowboys like the 235x75R16's Anything wider and the sidewalls rub each other.

    Diamondback has the 85 profile available in WWW.
     

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