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What Master Cylinder to use?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by CURIOUS RASH, May 21, 2012.

  1. CURIOUS RASH
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    59 El Camino, front disk, rear drum, no booster.

    I hear some Vettes were spawned this way but I am no subject matter expert on Vette's, or anything else for that matter.

    Trying to get this turd to the HAMB Drags this year..
     
  2. 50shoe
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    not sure on the vettes, but I know late 60s mustang mc can work well for this kind of thing.
     
  3. Rashy, what Exactly are the front calipers and the rear wheel cylinders?, makes a difference.
     
  4. tommyd
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    We used the vette M/C on my son Camaro drag car. It has disc /drum set up and it works great. Stops good even on tracks with a short shut down area.
     
  5. Johnny Gee
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    Ask for 1970 Vette with manual brakes.
     
  6. How long is a rope?

    How high is a tree?

    How much beer can the Vagabonds drink? Ok, that one may have an answer.
     
  7. Johnny Gee
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    Judging by your answers, alot has been consumed ;):D
     
  8. Not yet but you don't get it I see? Rashy asked the same open answered question that CAN NOT be answered without more info. We can guess, we can get close, we can get lucky. I like to do it right from the start.

    The answer to my last question was "all of it."
     
  9. DD COOPMAN
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    Vettes THRU '64 all had drums. '65s came standard with 4-wheel discs, although you could opt for ALL drums and receive a credit. From then on, 4-wheel discs were standard. What you're probably thinking about is that the 4-wheel discs COULD be ordered WITHOUT power. I had a '69 built without power. It would stop, but ya had to put a little effort into serious stopping. 1" bore M/C if I remember correctly. DD
     
  10. and what pedal ratio do you have? 6:1 or 7:1

    as a base line I expect you'll need 1" minimum, with an expected 1 1/8" and a longer pedal ratio preffered since you're not going with a booster.

    Cheers,

    Drewfus:)
     
  11. CURIOUS RASH
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    Its a 59 El Camino, with 59 El Camino rear wheel cylinders, new, and disk conversion with 78-85 Monte calipers.

    The pedal is still in the stock hole so whatever ratio that is is what it is set at.
     
  12. Rear stock are 1" cylinders used a 1" MC

    Monte was a couple sizes 2/12" front and 2 15/16s" MC was anywhere from 7/8" to 1 1/8" these are all listed as boosted. Are you manual?
     
  13. 53chieftian
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    GM stuff is pretty simple and standard across the board. I would simply try say a 70 Chevelle with front disc and no booster or something similar. Worst case it doesn't work right and I'm sure you have a friend with a Chevelle that needs a master!
     
  14. friends don't let friends drive Chevelles!
     
  15. wildearp
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  16. Chucky
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  17. Process of elimination (cross referenced from the Elco to the other various parts) in my Wagner book leads me to a 78-80 Monte Carlo manual MC Wagner # F101252. It is actually a 7/8" MC. A close start if nothing else. There are a couple sizes above and below that if it need fine tuning.

    You could match the Monte setup perfectly by using the rear WCs off the same car. 3/4" Wagner # F110260 right AND left
     

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