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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by onetruth1130, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. onetruth1130
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    Have a quick question. I recently put speedway split headers with some no name brand gl*** packs , on my 50 chevy pu with a 235 that, I picked up at a swapmeet. I went for a ride yesterday and it sounded like a turd! I'm really unhappy right now with how it sounds, its borderline "hooked up" honda civic ish. Anyone think that the split headers from speedway have anything to do with is or maybe I can put some namebrand gl***packs and make it sound like a real hotrod? All advice welcome!
     
  2. oldolds
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    The "sound" you are looking for comes with more than just a header. You need to get the carbs ( yes more than 1), timing has a lot to do with it, cam profile changes it. Then the big thing that give the "sound" is to get the compression up! The hot 6 sound comes from a hot 6.
     
  3. onetruth1130
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    Hah I like my 235. For now I'm keeping it. Well, I did do the dual carb upgrade aswell, no cam yet maybe someday down the line. But I m sayin is that I even liked the way it sounded better when I had it with a single exhaust and a cherrybomb. I was kinda expecting that same sounds just louder I guess.
     
  4. BISHOP
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  5. onetruth1130
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    Oh and my carbs ain't runnin right, still have to sync them correctly cuz they have a tendency to stall out, but maybe that's for a different thread?
     
  6. onetruth1130
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    Sooo u guys think the brand of headers don't make a diff in tone? Say like fenton, william, and speedway would all pretty much sound the same given that they had all the same mufflers?
     
  7. do yourself a favor... buy porter mufflers .. great product .. well made . a bit pricey ... but you get what ya pay for which is rare . I dont work for them but i have bought their product and will continue to .
     
  8. goose-em
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    On that six just pull the mufflers and run a straight pipe.
     
  9. Flop
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    also stagger the gl*** packs. but i have the long long long smithys on it and i cant hear it at idle but has a nice lound rap to it when i get on it .


    thats what i did with my 216 and i dig it !
     
  10. deeddude
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    I have the same headers running to a 3” merge into a flowmaster 40 series muffler, Clifford intake and Holley 2 brl. It has a unique sound of its own.

    here's a link.

    http://youtu.be/2dBZcwqc9Uk

    and a picture.
     

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  11. cederholm
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    I'm with Jake, Porters are the way to go. ...and they are an Alliance vendor.
     
  12. young'n'poor
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    Porters are my favorite but any name brand gl***/steel pack muffler has its fans. I've never owned one but local cars with a Fenton or stock split manifold seem to sound better than the tube style split header card IMHO. It's been much discussed here about running one side with a gl*** pack and one without also...
     
  13. Ebbsspeed
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    Varying a bit from the topic, but can anyone explain why, through a single exhaust, a 6 cylinder running at 2000 RPM sounds different than a V8 running at 1500, or a 6 at 4000 RPM vs a V8 at 3000? Same number of exhaust pulses per second, never have quite been able to figure out why the sound is so much different.
     
  14. NMCarNut
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    Good mufflers would probably help, but as already stated first get your carbs up to snuff and make sure you have the right cam for your setup.
    And if your exhaust is split all the way to the back another thing that would help the note is a balance tube between the pipes as close to the headers as practical.
     
  15. cederholm
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    I've been told a balance tube on a split six makes it sound like a single pipe exhaust again. ...I have personal proof of this, just something I've read a few times.
     
  16. Those sound awesome, but might be "too quiet" on a stock Stovebolt... Not much exhaust energy there :rolleyes:
     
  17. 40FordGuy
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    Fentons......., Walker Continentals, (if they still make 'em) Did that years ago for a customer...on a 57 Chev, with a 4 speed,...the thing had a really unique sound.

    4TTRUK
     
  18. plymouth1952
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    take the muffs off and run strate pipes
     

  19. Well go figure. There is nothing as awful as ths sound of a stock inline 6 with gl*** packs or straight pipes or the like. I hate that you got disapponted with the exhaust note and an glad that you are getting it figgured out instead of going through life thinking that sounds good.

    Your real options are to either build the motor or to put quieter mufflers on it and just enjoy the benefits of dual exhaust in a different way.
     
  20. onetruth1130
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    Ya I have to figure it out. Thing is my friend wants to use the truck on Saturday for her wedding. So time is not on my hands. Since I have a cherrybomb, I'm just gonna grab another one since they're cheap and use that until I figure out really what I want out of that exhaust. I really appreciate all the input! I also have to purchase a carb sync tool, since its runnin not as good as id like. Do I have to adjust timing since I did dual carbs and split headers?
     
  21. onetruth1130
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    Well, I ended up using 2 cherrybomb. Sounds a world of a diff. So much better than that no name gl***pack I bought at carlisle. Maybe one day ill spend the extra money and get better ones. But cherrybombs were $35 and I needed a quick fix. I also saw magnaflow gl***packs, anyone ever use those?
     

  22. Glad you got it sorted out. I have always liked the sound of cherry bombs although I never tried them on a liner. I haven't tried the magnaflo gl*** packs but I did run some redhots by flowtech and they had a very nice tone on an 8, can't tell you how they would sound on a 6 but I did like them better than cherry bombs.
     
  23. 1971BB427
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    Tie the tailpipes together ahead of the mufflers.
     
  24. Crusty Chevy
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    I have the Fentons, a two into one Y with a Magnaflow one in two out muffler all with 2.5" pipes on a hotish 216. Sounds bad*** on the g*** and has a wicked idle but off throttle it pops like the fourth of July. I think the 2.5" pipes are a bit too big for the motor might only need 2" in reality.
     
  25. Lucky444
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    The exhaust sound on a six can vary immensely depending on tubing diameter, whether you are using steel packs or gl*** packs, the actual length of the gl*** pack and whether you stagger the packs too. It all really makes a difference.

    Some basic rules are the smaller the tubing the higher the pitch. The shorter the pack the louder the rap.
     
  26. Gotgas
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    Remove all the exhaust after your header. Replace with 1 7/8" pipe all the way to the back of the car. No muffler, no 2.5" exhaust, none of that ****. It will sound beautiful.
     
  27. Lucky444
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    I have a stock 250 and ran one straight pipe and one 22" steelpack from Brockman's, all the way out back through 1.75" tubing. The rap and pop was fun for a few years, but the constant decibels got old. I then installed the other 22" pack on the straight pipe. That killed a ton of the sound and honestly, killed the fun too. I compromised by running one shorter steel pack (18") and that brought it back to life.

    Next stage for me is to change out the last few feet of tubing to 1.5" to raise the pitch a little.
     
  28. Little Terry
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  29. redlinetoys
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    Do yourself a favor and forget all about exhaust note until you get the carbs and timing right, and I mean REALLY right. It will completely change the way your ride sounds. Do that FIRST and then fine tune what it sounds like.
     
  30. Shane Spencer
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    look into brockman mellowtone gl***packs. sound killer
     

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