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My 31 Model A 4 banger coolent seeping issues

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by tikimansam, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. tikimansam
    Joined: Jan 8, 2012
    Posts: 9

    tikimansam
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    from california

    Hi folks im woring alot on my 1931 ford roadster pickup
    I have replaced the head gasket and followed the torq specks.
    by less and the Ssos.
    I have a seeping spots,
    from the head at some spots along the head and from the top of the nut on the head bolts.
    I need help here I am not sure what to do?
    I bought the standard copper head gasket (was told to be the better one)
    is there a real good head gasket for this seeping issue or problems solvers,
    I also used copper washers at the bolts that is seeping to the top of head bolt and nut.
     
  2. Did you check the head and block to see if either needed to be surfaced? Why did you replace the head gasket in the first place? This might be a good question for fordbarn.com

    Charlie Stephens
     
  3. George Miller
    Joined: Dec 26, 2008
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    George Miller
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    from NC usa

    Maybe some one drilled a broken stud out, and drilled to far in the block and went in to the water jacket. I always put a little rtv on the end of the bolt before screwing in the stud. If you are using a copper gasket it will help the seeping along the driver side of the head also.
     
  4. tikimansam
    Joined: Jan 8, 2012
    Posts: 9

    tikimansam
    Member
    from california

    Hi
    No I did not resurface the head or block.
    I understand that the head might be warped.
    the old copper head gasket was trashed and blown out at the same place it is weeping out now, I gave it a shot that it might just need replacement.
    I checked the stud holes for cracks and damage I did not find any problems before I installed the new heads bolts.
    I did take my time at it.
    what do you guys think about the solid copper gasket that Ssos sells?
     
  5. skwurl
    Joined: Aug 25, 2008
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    skwurl
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    You also need to use a coppercoat or copper rtv to properly seal a copper head gasket
     
  6. tikimansam
    Joined: Jan 8, 2012
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    tikimansam
    Member
    from california

    By the way when I got the car it was not running and so i had to take the head off to see if there was anything living or what not in the cylinders, so this part of the why I had to put a new head gasket.
    I have seen all kinds of stuff in the cylinders, as others have from mice to sand and a hole lot in the middle.
     
  7. 62pan
    Joined: Jun 8, 2008
    Posts: 903

    62pan
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    You should do this. Alot of heads and blocks are corroded along the drivers side and do seep. Maybe some Bars leak will help. As far as the solid copper gaskets I would think if you have any imperfections then they are not going to help.
     
  8. oldtin
    Joined: Dec 22, 2001
    Posts: 482

    oldtin
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    Some of the resto books recommend some bars leak. The old trick was to apply some heavy grease to both sides of the copper gasket. If its a solid copper gasket, not a copper clad, you can anneal the copper and it will conform to irregularities better
     
  9. skwurl
    Joined: Aug 25, 2008
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  10. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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    V4F
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    from middle ca.

    a copper crush gasket works well . copper with a crushable center . seal the studs that are in water jackets ....
     
  11. tikimansam
    Joined: Jan 8, 2012
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    tikimansam
    Member
    from california

    thanks for the great info will do!
     
  12. tikimansam
    Joined: Jan 8, 2012
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    tikimansam
    Member
    from california

    Cool I hear ya!
     
  13. V4F
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    V4F
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    from middle ca.

    i hope it all works for you . remember the retorque !!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. 4-port Riley
    Joined: Oct 20, 2005
    Posts: 303

    4-port Riley
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    Don't use a solid gasket, if you do you will really know what leaks are! They are good for racing, in my opinion that is all they are good for.
     
  15. Kensey
    Joined: Sep 25, 2006
    Posts: 737

    Kensey
    Member
    from Pittsburgh

    I'm having the same problem on one of my head bolts. Coolant is seeping out of the top between the bolt and nut. I was told to put some gasket maker on it and re-torque.
     
  16. ctlikon0712
    Joined: Aug 13, 2011
    Posts: 6

    ctlikon0712
    Member
    from Cocoa, Fl.

    I frequent the Forbarn allot. 90% of the seepage issues that we have with the 4 bangers is head flatness, and not re-torqueing to the 55 lbs within the first hour of running and then rechecking it once or twice after that. The spray sealants do help the copper gasket. That should be all you need as long as your not over a 6.5 to 1 compression.
     

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