I have/had a '23 Ford C-Cab with a blown Chevy 350 topped with twin Eddlebrocks and a Summit Street Scoop. Recently my throttle stuck open and I crashed my pride and joy. I have read on other forums of instances of the Mr Gasket Street Scoop (which is identical) sticking the throttle open causing cars to wreck and I was wondering if anybody on this forum has had any problems with either scoop?? Thanks
thats a total bummer, woulda never thought about that happening, but depending on the way that thing hooks to the linkage......yikes.....sorry to hear about that.....i hate that feelin, i crashe a racecar like that, turned the dist to adjust the timing, went out and crossed the start finish for qualifying went to let off in turn one, and no let off, she stuck about 3/4 throttle and right into the wall, about 75, head on into the wall, all four wheels locked up, bounced off the wall and down the track to the infield, still stuck, jammed into park, and finally killed the electrical, boy did it ****.......when i turned the dist. the little square box like thing stickin out of the top of a chevy hei, move more where the throttle rod hung up on it when the throttle got over half......****ed......i feel you pain....
I don't see how the scoop could be to blame for an unsafe throttle operation. During installation, didn't you verify that the scoop didn't interfere with the throttle? Didn't you verify that the throttle had a stop to keep it from going over-center? Didn't it have a proper return? I'm sorry about your unfortunate accident, but I don't think the scoop was at fault here. Seeing as it's your first post, it would appear that you are gearing up for a lawsuit?
Sounds like either the ****erflies being opened too far, like the linkage "cammed" over, due to poor linkage design....or the linkage itself was in misalignment. Since the ****erflies are more a "look" over function, it's better to have them open on a "sliding" linkage...similar to progressive, so they can't be the "cause" of a throttle stuck open situation....
Homemade linkage problem. The street scoop only has one moving part, the shaft that holds the ****erfies. The ****erflies dont even touch the scoop, whats to stick.??? The linkage cammed over, like Sinister said.
Wondering why the carbs don't control airflow, with the shiny piece being there as an add on with a secondary linkage?
I made a custom aircleaner. I thought I had clearance, the linkage moved fine in my hand. When I started the truck in neutral (thank god for that), after pressing the pedal a couple of times, the throttle got stuck and revved the engine as high as it would go. I had to turn the key to stop the engine. \ But scoops like the one you have run off the throttle linkage and should not get stuck like Bishop and Sinister said.
Years ago I had one on my 32.I over heard a guy tell a buddy those scoops are dangerous and known for sticking throttle.I thought screw you ,he didn't know what he was talking about.Later on that same day I lit up the M/T tires screwing around showing my kid how she runs.YIP you guessed it WIDE open ,got it straight,tried to pull gas peddal up and finally turned off the key and stood on the brakes before hitting barrier at the dead end road. Scared the **** out of me and my son. I went directly home got the hack saw and cut the linkage rod coming out the side and file 13 the linkage.I guess that dude wasn't so stupid after all,LOL.
Ye old throttle linkage bell crank vise grip locking action. Dont worry it, wont happen to you. Even though its happened to a lot of others.
I want to thank all of you for your useful information and since I don't spend a lot of time by my computer, I guess this was the best I could do for a post. I had read on other forums of similar instances that happened and thought I would ask. At least it made a couple of you chuckle so all is not lost. Thanks again.
Just to answer a couple of posts about how the scoop was setup and how it could be to blame: I had been running the scoop for over a year and when installing the throttle arm, etc. all of the clearances had been checked, and a 15degree lead on the arm itself also. Somehow the throttle arm had gotten pushed closer to the scoop where the locknut for the throttle shaft got hung on the lip of the scoop.
Damn you messed that ****er up! Sorry about your loss, but glad every one is OK. The silver lineing is now, you have a chance to re-do your little car in the kind of fashion that you might see around the HAMB. It might also be a good time to get rid of that scoop that almost killed you. Good luck, -Abone.
Do you have any more pics of the car and the damage? The car definately looks fixable, but more pics would give us a better idea of what its gonna take. -Abone.
Well until you can come to grips with the fact that you built and maintain your car and have failed , only then can you advance your learning curve and not repeat your mistake .... and thats how you surf rather than be part of it .
No doubt about getting rid of scoop, going back to the hillborn I had on before, and the car is salvageable but I'm going put the blown motor in one of my steel cars. That fibergl*** gives up way too easy. I may put it in my 62 Nova Convertible or build another Chevy stepside to put it in (easier to tub). I broke my foot in the wreck so I'm waitin for that to heal before I do anything. Thanks for the help.
Holly **** you were lucky you were able to walk away from that one (oh yea you broke a foot) I mean hobble away OUCH ! Just kidding man,I am just glad you weren't seriously hurt , killed or took someone else out.That would be hard to live with. When I sold my street scoop to a guy at the swap meet he *****ed about the linkage rod being cut off .I just laughed and said believe me your better off without it.
Yeh, I told the wife that her and my son could've dealt with me gone a lot easier than I could've dealt with killin some kid or somethin.
Nice thought, but when I had over 6oohp pinning me to the seat for this short 60' run, I realized my ignition toggle was too far away..lol.. Gotta laugh about that now..
Hi guys, I found this post after googling "Mr. gasket Street Scoop II + turning, rotation, etc.. Same exact thing happened to me. No, not looking for a lawsuit, maybe some advice on how others avoid rotation of the scoop on its axis. I absolutely could have been killed. In my case I installed the street scoop II onto my edelbrock 4 barrel carb, hooked up the linkage, no problems. But as I drove, the scoop would loosen and get "pulled" by the linkage and would very slowly rattle loose and face the left front fender. At that particular angle, the throttle linkage stuck full on. How do you keep the entire ***embly of the scoop from rotating? There is no way to attach the base of the scoop to the carb firmly to stop rotation, and engine rumble by itself will loosen mine up. I have a ford 302, basically stock, so it's not exactly rumbling like a drag car. Suggestions??
What I would do is get rid of it, and put something on there that looks better & works better. If for some strange reason I was in love with it, I'd take the linkage to the ****erflies off, and remove the ****erflies or hold them open all the time. If for some even stranger reason I'd want to keep the Faux Injector Hat ****erflies "functional" , I'd activate them with a chain instead of a linkage. ( like the chain they use on cruise controlls) So if the scoop deal sticks open, the carb can still go back to closed. But I'm pretty sure I'd just get rid of it...
My scoops flap is controlled by vacuum - it's got NO connection to the throttle-linkage, ergo no risk of jamming it. (the vacuum can that operates the flap linkage is from a 70's factory Ford air-filter housing)
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