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how many are running 2 wheel bolt patterns???

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Magnum Wheel Man, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. Magnum Wheel Man
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    when I started on my truck project, I had every intention of getting all 4 wheels to the same 5 on 5 ( original ) bolt pattern... however I'm having trouble finding rear wheels in the width I'm looking for, & my rear axle is 5 X 4.5, & the hubs have the cut out to access the bolts behind the flange, & would require either changing out the axle shafts, or more expense to switch them over to 5 X 5 because I'd have to fill in the cut out & re-true the surface... added to that, I can easily find the wheels I'm looking for in 5 X 4.5 pattern, so this has me wondering why go through all the expense of converting everything... not like the wheels will interchange front & rear will be quite a difference in size

    so I'm think different patterns between front & rear... would that be "hokey" or OK... your thoughts

    BTW... I may not even carry a spare, but could drill a 2nd bolt pattern in the spare's wheel if i decided to carry
     
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  2. Magnum Wheel Man
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    so no one wants to admit to running different bolt patterns from front to rear, or it's common place ???
     
  3. two bolt patterns are ok by me if you have to

    my `28 tudor has 4-1/2 in back on the maverick rear end , and the front f-100 brakes i drilled to 4-3/4 because i got good deal on the chevy bolt pattern wheels
     
  4. Dooley
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    Ha...I have a chevy rear 4-3/4, so being the brain surgeon I am I had a machinist change the bolt pattern on my 42 Ford hubs so they would have the same pattern, but I gave him the wrong info, so it went from original Ford to 4-1/2...so that is what I have.

    When I added disc brakes up front I kept the 4-1/2 so I did not have to buy new rims...
     
  5. 50flathead
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    I've done it and it works just fine. You are probably running different sizes front to rear anyway. You'll need to get a mini spare and drill out a dual bolt pattern.
     
  6. Weasel
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    I would never build a car that way, but have different bolt patterns on a car I traded. I just use a dual bolt pattern spare steelie....
     
  7. Doraville
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    My '52 Ford F1 pickup has a 5x4.5 bolt pattern on the rear and 5x4.75 on the front. The Wheels that I bought from Wheel Vintiques support both bolt patterns. I'm running different sized tires on the back and front, so they're not really interchangeable anyway.

    I don't carry a spare; I carry a tire plug kit and a small 12V powered compressor in all of my vehicles. I couldn't tell you the last time I had to actually use a spare.

    -DV
     
  8. Atwater Mike
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    I always started with front axle and wheels; if rear was 'different', (Olds 5" or Ford 4.5") it was redrilled, along with drums. That way, the right wheels (early Ford) fit.

    The 'dual pattern' spare is a saviour for guys that get stuck with differing patterns...
     
  9. Don's Hot Rods
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    My 27 has had a different pattern for years, early Ford front and late 9 inch Ford rear. My rpu project car is the same. It has never been a problem on the 27 because I have no space to carry a spare tire anyway. :D

    Don
     
  10. 26 roadster
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    I have done it many times although I try not to. Moons cover up the foopa anyway.
     

  11. This is a fantastic idea. For all of us guys running radials this is all you would need 99% of the time...
     
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  12. 1971BB427
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    I can't carry a spare, so AAA does what I need. If I could carry a spare I'd get a wheel with a unilug washer that can be turned one way or the other to accomodate different spacing. The wheels on the back off my car are old ET slots and they can be 5x5, 5x4.75, or 5x4.5, depending on which way the washer is, or using center hole washers.
    Just find one o these in a 15"x6" wheel and have both sets of washers.
     
  13. I have two cars with different bolt patterns front/rear. We had a similar discussion this weekend re: spares. Most of the guys I run with don't carry spares since our front/rear tire size combos vary. We rely mostly on luck since flat tires are not as common as they were years ago. Now blowouts; ...... that's a different story!
     
  14. metal man
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    I did it once when I was 19 and put a car frame clip under my first truck to lower it. Ended up 5 1/2 rear and 4 1/2 front.

    I wouldn't do it again just because it seems kind of hokey or amateurish to me now.

    These guys are right though...many of our old cars have too big of a cir***ference difference front to rear to use a common spare, so......
     
  15. Texas Webb
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    I'm not that far along yet but I have a pair of 35 wires for front and a pair of 33-34 buick bent spokes(16x5 5 on 6 bolt pattern have to use adapters for these)
     
  16. I have Chevy front and Ford rear! I've gotta admit that this will probably never change! I've got a 10 hole spare to fit 'em both!


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  17. 28TUDOR
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    I always thought it would be better to match the rear size and just deal with it up front.
     
  18. '51 Norm
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    Not quite two bolt patterns but………

    I once had an International pickup that had left hand lug nuts on the driver’s side. I managed to screw up several studs on one wheel. When I went to the parts store they didn’t have any left hand studs and didn’t have enough right hand studs to do the whole wheel. Soooo I ended up with a wheel with three right hand and two left hand lug nuts.

    I expect that the guy that I sold the truck to is still sitting on the side of the road in the rain cursing me.

    If he had finished paying me for the truck I might have told him about the studs. Then again maybe not, I’m kinda like that.
     
  19. ROADSTER1927
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    If you are worried some space saver spares have multiple bolt patterns. Gary
     
  20. Magnum Wheel Man
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    one of my 1st cars was a 63 Buick Lesabre... I learned the hard way, by breaking all the front studs off, & a couple of the backs, before I figured out the left side was left hand... creative 16 year olds... can break a lot of stuff with a good solid 60's 4 way & a 6ft section of pipe

    2 different threads on the same wheel is down right cruel

    I am also switching over the leftys on this project... I had the left rear off one day... about a week later, was suprised I couldn't impact off the fronts.... my wife comes out, as I'm sitting there all frustrated... watches me work on one for a little, & comments... "I thought you said the left side was left hand"... DOA... forgot in one week... must have had a senior moment... I think it's better if they all get switched to rightys

    as much as I'd like all of them the same, since they won't be interchangable anyway, & or could be with a dual pattern spare, I think I'll save the cost & time & leave the new back axle as 5 on 4.5
     
  21. tommy
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    front 5.5 Front, rear 4.5 8" Ford rear end.

    4.5" wide genuine Fords up front and 7" wide repos on the rear. If I get a flat that particular wheel will get fixed so no universal spare is necessary. I do wish the repo rears had the cooling vents like the originals
     
  22. Hitchhiker
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    I didn't read the whole thread,so if this is already mentioned. please excuse.....But why not just change the front to match the rears?
     
  23. Magnum Wheel Man
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    For me... my stock hubs, new brake shoes, & front wheels I already had, are all 5 X 5, so was thinking about making the rear 5 X 5 ( my changed out axle is 5 X 4.5 ) new brake drums were already 5 X 5, wheels in the width I want are rare ( reads more expensive ) in 5 X 5... seems to make sense since I can find wheels much much cheaper in 5 X 4.5, to not change the rear axle, & just re-drill the brake drums ???
     
  24. jimbousman
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    On my A coupe I'm running a Muswang II front end and a Jag-u-war rear (chevy bolt pattern) I have 10 hole steelies all around including the spare. I looked at the adapter route but decided I didn't want the wheels and tire sticking out like a hip-hop low rider. Plus good adapters ain't cheap.
     
  25. sic-nic
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    my coupe has a mustang ii front end and a gm rear end. bought it that way and just kept building it.
     

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