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Projects Couple problems with the '51 F1 brakes

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Tha_PiG, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. Tha_PiG
    Joined: Jul 16, 2012
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    Tha_PiG
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    from Georgia

    So we cant get the brakes to work at the moment. One of the brake lines had a leak in it, we relaced that line... Then we Replaced 1 wheel cylinder that looked pretty bad. But the peddle just goes to the floor. So we replced the master cylinder. Still no peddle.... Pressure seems to be escaping somewhere, but there's no fluid leaking anywhere.

    Suggestions?

    By the way, do these trucks have a positive or negative ground?
     
  2. 49F1Jeff
    Joined: Oct 24, 2011
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    49F1Jeff
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    from Oregon

    Positive ground I believe on the 6V system.

    Did you bench bleed the new master? Have you been able to eyeball each of the old wheel cylinders to see if they are leaking?
     
  3. themoose
    Joined: Dec 7, 2008
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    themoose
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    Sounds like air is the system to me. Try re bleeding them.
     
  4. greaseyknight
    Joined: Sep 27, 2010
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    greaseyknight
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    from Burley WA

    Did you bench bleed the master? I take it you have bled the whole system. Was it a metal line or a rubber one? If one of the lines had a leak in it I might suggest changing them all just to be safe, depending on the others condition.

    Stock, a F1 is 6v positive ground, who knows what it is now. The voltage regulator or generator might be best clues to see if its been converted to 12v.
     
  5. bobss396
    Joined: Aug 27, 2008
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    On a truck of that vintage, you're best off replacing all the wheel cylindrers and soft hoses. Take a real good look at the steel lines as well. Those can be the weakest link when you have to make a sudden short stop.

    Bench bleed the master, make sure all the shoes are well-adjusted (helps the pedal height), give it a good bleed all around.

    Bob
     
  6. Tha_PiG
    Joined: Jul 16, 2012
    Posts: 32

    Tha_PiG
    Member
    from Georgia

    Ok, thanks for the quick responses.

    We did bench bleed the new master.

    The metal line had the leak in it. All the other lines look really good.

    Everything looks really good for that matter...

    We're going to keep adding fluid and re-bleed and see what happens.

    But keep the suggestions coming!!

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    Last edited: Jul 25, 2012
  7. greaseyknight
    Joined: Sep 27, 2010
    Posts: 225

    greaseyknight
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    from Burley WA

    6 year old gas, thats nothin.....you wouldn't believe how bad 25 year old gas is, and if you get some on your hands it will stink for days :eek:

    Try gravity bleeding or vacuum bleeding if the standard pump the pedal method fails. Did you buy a new master or get a rebuild? I rebuilt the one in my F-3 and it would not create any pressure as the bore was too rusted out. Try putting a plug in the outlet for the master and see if that solves the problem.
     

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