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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by loudpedal, Aug 4, 2005.

  1. general gow
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    Shoot, those Adel clips are exactly what we use in bicycle shops to mount touring racks on bike frames with no braze-ons. If you pop in to your local Bike shop, they prolly have a drawer full of them that they would love to give you. See most bikes come with the proper braze on mounts for racks these days, and most racks still come with the clips anyway. The result is a bulging drawer full of Adel clips with no home.

    "Why not throw them away?", you ask. Bike guys are like hot rod guys that way. "You never know when you might need this, this..."
     
  2. Bruce Lancaster
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  3. I'm not sure, it came in a roll just like electrical tape, about 1/2" wide was what the Ol' Man used. I still have a roll left over from Gawd knows when that I inherited with his old tool chest. It says something illegable on the inside of the roll. It was stuck to the inside of the chest behind an anchient (and broken) ring compressor.
     
  4. Mondo454
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  5. My 34 pickup, done sometime in the 50's, has the waxed string all over it. Real tough stuff.
     
  6. thanks for the help guys, we just want it to look "right" i think your suggestions will do just fine. You getting all this Kris?? :)
     
  7. Kevin Lee
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    Yup, still figuring out the best way to hid my Holley regulator inside of it.
     
  8. Bruce Lancaster
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    Shoot, that thing's big enough to hide the remote receiver for the power windows! Plus the windows, on your car...
     
  9. HighSpeed LowDrag
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    Although maybe not period correct, I do like the idea of 1/2 conduit welded to the frame. Small 1" long pieces or so. That's the way my boat trailer is done(for whatever that's worth?) and it looks really clean.
     
  10. Jethro
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    Isn't friction tape the same stuff they use on hockey sticks?
     
  11. LP

    The lacing product is made by Gudebrod, (www.Gudebrod.com) is used in the aircraft industry common in black and white.
     
  12. Slonaker
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    My Dad always laced stuff up with the waxed string. There are still a few rolls of it around his garage. The whole underside of the dash on his Moto Guzzi, built in the 70s, is done that way. It looks sharp.

    He did electronics in the Air Force from the 50s through the 70s. I believe he said that was how they were taught to do things in his tech school in the 50s.

    Slonaker
     
  13. blown49
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    I did a lot of lacing in the 50's & 60's when I worked in the power plants as an instrument tech. All control panels were done with the waxed string. Pretty simple to do; start with a goog wrap around the bundle and knot. Then 1/2 hitch the string about every 1/2" tp 3", depending on the size of the bundle diameter of your wire and wrap and knot when you get to the end.
     
  14. Roothawg
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    I actually wanna use it for a fuel filter.........They polish up nice too. If I remember right the part number was like a C1A or C3A??? Made by Delco or Purolator? Can't remember.....
     
  15. FWIW, around here we refer to adel clips as "P" clips, so as to avoid confusion.:D .

    I love this place.

    Jay
     
  16. ironpile
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    Electrical tape,bailing wire is for exhaust ,hanging and welding. Jerry:D
     
  17. 286merc
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    Ive laced both electronics and auto wiring with 25# test braided fishing line; the stuff everyone used before monofilament. It is still available at sporting goods shops.

    You can draw it thru warm beeswax for that extra gripping power or leave it alone. If it will be exposed to the elements/pollutants then consider dying it black or brown.

    The lacing knot is not hard to master, if there is interest I'll try and scan a page out of an antique Radio Amateurs Handbook.
     
  18. Bluto hit the Nail on the Head...!!!

    Telecom still uses #9 waxed string and it has proven itself for the past 100 years in big city central offices..., more durable than anything else they've come up with!

    I did 10,000 wire connections in MDF's (Main Distribution Frames) and the only thing that held the hundred pairs in the racks was the "Waxed String"!

    I believe that this string is available at "Graingers" but I did see a lot of telecom supplies at "Home Depot"..., ya never know...!!!
     
  19. Leon
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    Mil Spec lacing varied from this slightly by being knotted at each loop preventing the whole thing from unraveling if it were cut in one spot.
     
  20. I have had three old hot rods to observe one built in '58 one in'61 and one in '66 all three had rubber lined Adel clamps here and there and then tightly tied about an inch or two spacings-with the twine mentioned above in between the sparely used clamps......
     
  21. stealthcruiser
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    me thinks "not f-4 tape" there Rootmeister.
    they are prolly' talking about that rough looking electrical tape.
     
  22. 5window
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    How about something like split rings, keychain rings, opened and then closed SS lockwashers, copper groundwire clamps, Ethilon surgical suture (black monofilament nylon)? Just thinking late at night.
     
  23. Jimmy Changa
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    "Make my clip the P-clip...I wants to get clipped up!!" ;)
     
  24. didn't they make something like a loaf of bread twist tie?
     
  25. Comet
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    Yep, Boeing still uses it on commercial aircraft.
     

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