Read this on another forum.......DIY Satin paint job

Ok I read this on another forum regarding doing a satin look paintjob and he gave the following technique:

So my question to you experienced painters on this site....Would this "dry technique" really work well for a satin style paint job? Or would you be wasting your time/money doing a satin paint job like this to get that look?

 

"the only rule is don't put on too much too fast or it'll slick over! "
Damn, wouldn't want that to happen. Someone might mistake it for a nice shiny paintjob. Damn the bad luck!

 

Definitely. Shiny cost just as much, why have a dull finish?

 

Because this is the look I ultimately want to achieve....satin on the body and metallic gloss on the roof

 

Anything that I have sprayed "dry" because of too much air and not enough material came out very grainy and not cool looking. I would just buy a gallon of enamel or urethane and add flattener, then you can spray like you should and get a nice eggshell sheen.

 

if got to have a satin finish do it with the correct products. By doing it the "dry method" will only give you a weird botched up looking paint job with alot of grain to it and dry spots...you wont get that silky smooth look that it should have. Plus it will probly be glossy in some spots and dull and dry in others.

 

IF you want a satiny finish, why would you not spend nearly the same amount for satin clear...??? With the whole car done in satin clear, you won't ever have to worry about it getting splotchy. This is my brother's '54 Caddy...



The satin clear was shot over tinted primer...the flames were done after primer in Firemist Lime Green paint and then whole car was shot with satin clear, except for the top...but like anything anyone asks on this forum, the standard answer is "it's your car, do what you like."

R-

 

There are so many satin paints available now. Do it right, get satin paint and spray it like it's supposed to be sprayed. This way there is no learning curve/mistakes. You'll get what you want. My pre-tax $0.02.

 

Awesome info! Thanks guys. Just needed a steer in the right direction ....Oh and 40Stude......Your brother's caddy is wicked! beautiful car

 

go to any paint jobber ask for the least expensive single stage paint, add flattner, make sure you prep everything including your spray environment. If your not confident in your abilitys practice because if you want satin....... what comes out of the gun and on to the panel is what you get !!!!

 

I used matrix clear and added their flatting agent 4:1:2. That's 2 parts flattner it came out great! It's nice bc you have the protection of clear

 

Some of you guys just will never get it, will you ? Let me try one more time to explain it. Some of us WANT our cars to not be shiny, and actually prefer them in satin finish. I get more compliments and positive comments on the satin black paint on my roadster than I ever got on any of my shiny ones, but more importantly, I like it better, and I am the one who paid for the paint.

But if it makes you feel better, think of it this way. We do them in satin so your shiny ones will look even better yet. See how nice we are ?

I used SEM Hot Rod Black, which is a catalyzed enamel. It comes as a 3 part kit, and you do not have to top coat it with any clear.



Don

 

Hey Don, you've been around for awhile. Regardless of the general public's perception. Do you remember ever buying any satin automotive paint in the fifties or sixties? Or did you ever see any satin for sale? This is a serious question. Maybe I missed it...?
I mean, if it wasn't readily available, perhaps satin isn't as traditional as it's made out to be by some people. Thanks in advance...

 

Roger,

Have you and your brother noticed a fade in the primer color with the clear over it and sealing it?

I have a epoxy black that looks great and I would love to just seal it and be done.

 

i use base coat paint and then add 10-25% clear in it. 10% is pretty flat while 25% is more egg shell. has worked great on my cars. my 2 cents worth

 

Yes, even the tinted primer faded some in the sun, but that was before we put the satin clear over it...haven't noticed any since the satin clear, but it's not quite a year old yet...so only time will tell...don't care what anyone sez, the sun WILL fade just about anything.

If you are interested, I can prolly find the name/brand of the satin we used...

OnlyonThurs62 - thanx for the compliment...I'll pass it along.

R-

 

I used a Dupont Commercial grade single stage. It was around $100 for a gallon and $20 for the catalyst. IT comes satin already and that 1 gallon did 3 coats on my car. I drove the car for 5 years with that black on it and it never faded or changed. After I got rid of it I dont know what happened to the paint.

 

Looks good Don!

 

As a matter of fact, yes, I saw more satiny paint jobs on hot rods and customs than shiny ones when I was growing up. California was always a little different in that regard than where I grew up in Pittsburgh. I lived in California for a while in the late 70's and Californians just tend to spend more money on everything than most other places. One of the reasons I left there was because I simply couldn't afford to stay there and keep up with the Jones.

So, your early recollections of cars might have been ones with shiny paint jobs and nice upholstery (even if they did come from south of the Border) but I saw more cars sprayed in primer or with faded out paint jobs in my neck of the woods. Hell, most of the cars I owned in the late 50's and early 60's were sprayed with my trusty Sears vacuum cleaner.

I guess the bottom line is, my traditional is not the same as someone else's traditional might be. It seems some others might have those same memories because quite often someone will walk up to my 27 and say "Now that is how I remember a hot rod looking !"

Don

 

Don, your car is tits!!! Sweet ride!

 

what kind of car is this and where can you get pipes like that very badass

 

I believe those are called bellflowers, at least that is what I have heard them called.

They are pretty easy to get ahold of.

Speedway has them for like $40.00 a piece...

I think they look great, on the right car.

 

that looks great Don i've been wanting to try the sem but was afraid it would turn out too grey but after seeing yours i'am going to shoot a pal's 68 chev pickup i just started the bodywork on with it thanks for the picture...Dave

 

This would be cutting the gloss by creating a texture. The result would be rough, hard to clean and not satin smooth, but dull like sandpaper. Of all the ways I've seen this done, this is a really bad idea. This "technique" sounds like a drywall guy trying to paint a car.

 

i use regular base clear system. add cornstarch too the clear, nothing extra to buy but it. works good .

 

+1 on the SEM Hot Rod Black... shot my OT car with this and it came out great... looks wicked and gets lots of good comments... funny thing women really seem to like the color...LOL

 

"makes your shiney ones look even better" I love that, I'm going to use it every time someone ask me when I am going to paint my truck...lol

 

Growing up in the UK hot rods were almost unheard of, but the matt / eggshell in black on the car's bonnet was very popular emulating racing and rally cars of the period, bycutting down on the sun's glare from shiny paint, even in this green and pleasant land, (by the way it's only green because of the regular rainfall) but matt looks near shiny in the wet!!!

 

I like your bottom line a lot,
My hotrod world I grew up in was shiny paint and rods, Florida in the mid 50's to 65,,any primer was only on the way to being shiny or on a beater not wroth shiny.
I did most of my own painting also,but around south fla. back then anyone could get a well sprayed shiny paint job for $19.95 at Johnny and Mack,if you wished for really smooth you did need to prep your self.
I kind of like the mixs now of both shiny an dull,the newer paints make it more lasting finish. A few on this thread are pretty shrap looking,your T is very nice

 

Didn't see this one answered - the car is a 61 Ford Galaxie.